Josh K. Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hey Guys, Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. After many emails and phone calls back and forth with Fortune-Auto I decided why should I build my car around S13 Coil-overs when they can build the coil-overs to fit my car instead.... Fast forward. After another 40 emails, numerous phone calls, lots of drawings of my setup, the stock mount points and the perfect "On the bump stops"/Static/Droop measurements it is now in motion and the final drawings are being drafted right now. Yesterday I got the first manufacturing drawings. The rears they accidently made to the stock length and not my specs. This has been fixed and they'll be sending me complete assembly drawings next week with springs/collars and all the goodies ;) So here's the plan. Adjustable ride height, Spring Preload, Dampening, Valved for the 510, any spring rate you want and the option to add their "Swift Springs". I should see my prototype set in the next 4months and as it takes awhile to manufacture. I would expect the final price to be around $1,100. So what is different besides the obvious? The rears bolt right on, you must use your stock upper hardware as it's cost prohibitive to make a mold to make the rubber bushings... The fronts will be weld on but not like the Stance Tubes or the slip over collar setups on the market now. Here's the idea: I did a bunch of research on how people are installing S13 coil overs. I found a lot of guys are welding the thread sleeve to the stock strut tube, some are even gusseting them. I don't really feel comfortable with relying on Cast Steel-Tubing to hold my wheel on... I know it's being done but if a company wants to limit the liability on a product it's needs to be a little more robust. I designed these around the 280zx strut but it will work with the stock 510 struts also. Just hold the strut tube plumb, tack, tack underneath, weld out.... Here's what I sent to Fortune-Auto so they could see the parts in person..... This is the one of my early sketches, notice the solid billet lower..... Here's the mock up blank: Here's what the strut would look like. Just cut off the tube flush, drill a hole through and hot tank to make sure it's clean. Tube/Blank inserted. You would weld the perimeter and plug weld the bottom. The real one would have more taper like the drawing: Here's the current drawing: So what do you guys think? Most of this info is in my build thread here on Ratsun but I wanted to let the larger community know about this project as I feel it's gonna be a great option. I'm stoked! Josh- 1 Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Sinnful did his front like that Quote Link to comment
dennis Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Do you know if they are going to be building the camber plates into their system? I would be down for a set probably by the time they came out. Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted April 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 The fronts will have S13 camber plates as they share the same bolt pattern as the 510. Did sinful have lowers machine of of solid stock? I'm pretty sure he welded a sleeve to the stock tube. Josh- Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 He had the tube machined out if I remember right . I am sure he will chime in. Quote Link to comment
FiveTenzo Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 how low/high would you be able to go? Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I'll have to find out. I think around 4"at the rocker to 7" would be my guess. This is with 15's. I'll get some more info tonight. Basically I specd them to my ride height as the mid range in adjustment. To get full up travel required trimming of the body to clear the arm. I think they'll go totally slammed to almost stock height. Again I'll get more info tonight and post it tomorrow. Josh- Quote Link to comment
boostloops Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 keep us updated man im down for a set of these Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Hey Guys, lots of questions/info on the thread I posted over on the Realm. http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23762 Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 The coil-over parts will be arriving at Fortune-Auto on Wed. After assembly and dyno testing they should ship out Friday :hyper: :fu: :hyper: :fu: :ninja: I'm going with 4kg. springs front and rear. I plan on documenting a full install procedure when I install mine. The rear will need a uni-bit to open the upper shock mount hole and the front lower tube welded on by a professional. Not alot to ask for sick ass coil-overs.... :thumbup: I'll be receiving a set of the 500's Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 good work now find some one to build body panel's :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
CraigSnedeker Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I designed their website ;] Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 good work now find some one to build body panel's :thumbup: That's a little more work :-) I designed their website ;] Good job, its pretty clean! Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Tomorrow the coil-overs will be assembled the rest of the way and shipped, until then........... Quote Link to comment
dennis Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I love the look of the coil-over. I am a little concerned about installation since the strut tubes will have to be machined out and then an adapter welded into place. Since you are taking the helm on this project and you have the means for at least the machining work (not sure on the welding), are you going to be providing a service to prep the struts for the coil-over installation? It would seem fitting since you have experiences with the tolerances associated with the installation. Hope to hear a review of the coil-overs soon, I am in the market for some for my Mini Countryman and they are one of the few companies that make them for that vehicle. Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Hey Dennis, It only requires a drill press to punch a hole through the bottom and a nice level work bench for welding. The tube is just cutoff flush with a hand grinder. I'm not planning on doing this work myself as I'm just too damn busy. I have a few ideas and will report back.... Josh- Ps. My only review can be the install and fitment as my car is a loooong way away from driving. After 160 emails back and forth I can say I have never worked with such a great company and group of people as Fortune-Auto. If the product is as good as the support then it's top notch. Quote Link to comment
freekwonder Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Just beautiful, great work on getting them made. Looks like I need to start saving. Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Josh, what did the price end up being? I feel like it might be a sign that these are green.... I might have to pick a pair up. Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Tristin, stay tuned. Fortune-Auto doesn't do direct sales. It must be through a dealer. Quote Link to comment
dennis Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Josh, what did the price end up being? I feel like it might be a sign that these are green.... I might have to pick a pair up. I would bet 1,000.00 - 1500.00 This is about their going rate for that series. Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Tristin, I'm just someone that wants what I want and found someone to make it so everyone else can also get what they don't know they want..... :rofl: The "where" and "how" is still developing. After I give the green light on fit and function they should be on the shelf within a month. -Josh Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I got the Swift springs and Roller Bearing Upgrade on mine :rofl: Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Coil-Overs shipped today. Estimated delivery Jul 26, 2012 Swift springs are getting drop shipped to me :w00t: Quote Link to comment
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