510 Bomber Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 whaats the best way to make a Rust Effect on either hood, roof, trunk, anywhere. should i use chemicals, natural way, idk. help me out. thx 3 Quote Link to comment
FiveTenzo Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 you can paint it brown/orange, let it dry. then paint it what ever color you want to be on top, let it dry. then wet sand it on the parts you want it to look rusty. (West coast customs, wrench rod episode) Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Patina is earned. Not made. 1 Quote Link to comment
Wide14u Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 they show how to on the show trucks Quote Link to comment
510 Bomber Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 its for my bro. one guy i meet said he gringed down the hood to bare metal, then splashed salt water from the ocean on it. and it rusted it. just wanna know other methods that people have tryed 1 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 its for my bro. one guy i meet said he gringed down the hood to bare metal, then splashed salt water from the ocean on it. and it rusted it. just wanna know other methods that people have tryed That's cheating. Quote Link to comment
FiveTenzo Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Patina is earned. Not made. that's cheating No one cares and your not helping 3 Quote Link to comment
Rustina 510 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Salt bath is the beat and fastest way to do it. What I have done is sand the entire hood, door, trunk lid, or any part of the body you want down to the bare metal. Then salt bath it and out it in a dark place for about 3 days to a week " check on it tell it has the effect you want" Then clean as best as you can with out actually removing the effect of the rust and clear coat it. Then leav what ever areas you want rusty as clear as possible, paint it and sand the rust back to the top. But remember the clear coat is to minimize the rust process once you get the amount. To think looks cool. It will continue to rust though, and you will eventually lose the look you are wanting. I don't like rust repair anymore These cars aren't being made anymore, rust kills bro :rofl: Quote Link to comment
Wide14u Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 nice looking patch job Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 No one cares and your not helping These cars aren't being made anymore, rust kills bro :rofl: Yeah. I think I am. Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 its for my bro. one guy i meet said he gringed down the hood to bare metal, then splashed salt water from the ocean on it. and it rusted it. just wanna know other methods that people have tryed Patina is HOW You buy it YO!!!!! NOT how you make it :rolleyes: 1 Quote Link to comment
510 Bomber Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 thanks for the positive input. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 . www.google.com ........ .. lol seriously there's even Youtube videos on "fake rust" chemical solutions So browsing the depths of the internet' date=' I came across this car.... [img']http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1754/derekbg.jpg[/img] I've always been a rat-rod guy, and loved the way he tied old and new together. I had bought a silver parts car quite some time back, and it's hood was already quite rusty... [i'll find a pic for this later...] So I decided I'd do something similar. September 9, 2008 I posted photos online claiming this would be the last time anyone saw the car looking anything like this... A week or so prior, I made a game plan. I had a parts car at the time with terrible paint on the hood, and the hood had already started rusting in the middle of it... I tried grinding the metal off and letting it sit in the rain. It did this, which I was unhappy with: So I spent several days trying to come up with a "rusting solution". September 13, 2009 I had finally concocted what I thought was the ultimate rusting solution. I gave it a whirl, and the results I could not have been more happy with. I wanted to run a colored valence since I really liked the way this mk1 pulled it off: So I tried this: I wanted something more maroon, as it came out a bit too purple... so I did the next best thing and went for olive drab. So I had the rusty hood game on lock down. I hadn't shown the car to anyone yet though. It was time to get trendy.... 1 Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 September 18' date=' 2008[/u'] Next on the "How to make a VW" list was a roof rack. I started by buying Austin's Yakima roof rack. I bought two oak dowels for the cross bars and several planks of poplar for the slats, and stained them with a "cherry" stain of some sort... I forget what it was. September 19, 2008 Now, in between rusting my hood and making a roof rack, I had spotted a set of wheels.... Wheels I regret selling to this very day. 17x9.5 et -6 and 17x10.5 et +5 HRE 504s... A buddy of mine in Atlanta had them and was willing to split with them... so I snagged 'em, and paid more for them than any set of wheels I had at that point (which, looking back, wasn't very many). $1800. Roof fitment: Rear fitment.... September 27, 2008 September 27, 2008 was the day that "Rusty", although not his name at the time, made his initial debut. I'd like to think it was the day the BMW game changed a little bit. We put a dent in the fresh paint finish known as Bimmerforums, going against the grain and bringing some VW flair into the BMW world. I'm sure I wasn't the first to do it, just the first to be public about it. 1 Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 October 20' date=' 2008[/size'] So Louise and I yapped back and forth, talking about what was next, and I went out and shot the feature. And some others: And then my world changed. 1 Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 January 30' date=' 2009[/size'] January 30, 2009 was a bitter-sweet day. It was the day my magazine feature landed. It was also the day I let a friend borrow my car, and they slammed it into the side of a semi-truck. I got a large insurance check for it, put it in the back of the driveway, and forgot about it. I stripped it of the suspension and goodies for my replacement 6-er... Fast forward... April 24, 2009 I remembered I had "rusty" sitting down in the driveway... So I got to work... I had that silver parts car. It clicked that I had the parts to put the E28 back together... so I pulled the fender and got out the tools, and eventually got it to line up to some far off extent.. But the problem was it was now black, silver, and a rusty hood. When I had rusted the hood, I wanted to rust the whole car, but couldn't murder my car like that. After all, it's like a delayed lethal injection. Well, there I was... I had an E28 that had put money in my pocket and was either going to go to the junk yard, or I could give it one last hurrah.... I'm sure you already know what I did. April 27, 2009 It took 3 days and a LOT of paint removal pads... but I got 'er done. I whipped out the same concoction I used to rust the hood, and gave the car a dousing... unfortunately, it didn't work as well. I went back to the drawing board, figured out an even better solution, and within 4 hours, I had a rusty E28. Rusty was born. I hit the car again with the solution and really got the rust to darken down a bit, to what everyone saw. I also yanked the RSs from the 6, and lastly, I chopped those springs to hell. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 May 10' date=' 2009[/u'] On May 10, 2009, we turned the BMW game upside down. :alright A few days later, I returned with no hood at all: A few more photos: Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm sure you know what happens next... I've got build pics of the trailer somewhere but I can't find them. What we did was cut the rails off of the perimeter of the trailer' date=' removed the axle, and flipped the trailer. We welded the railings back on upside-down, and mounted the axle to the top (previously the bottom) of the leaf springs. Result? Dumped trailer. [img']http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3757266246_468fef5f39_o.jpg[/img] Up next? California! July 31, 2009 Andrew and I went on our "epic" road trip to California. Get the whole story here, because its worth reading... but I'll post some important parts of the "build" here. Before we could leave, we had to roll the fenders even more. Rubbing was constant with the trailer. The trailer was packed up: We had lots of issues. Dead fuel pumps, dead tires, falling exhausts, etc. So One awesome Foster family, two fuel pumps, a cap and rotor, and two new tires, later, we were able to get on the road. The exhaust also had to be re-done. DJ Neeko helped us patch it up and put a skidplate on it. The patented "Neekflow" side exit was super gangster. But in a single week we dominated it again, so rusty became exhaustless. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 October 14' date=' 2009[/u'] So we got back from Cali a month later, at the end of August. Fast forward a month and Ben Terry calls me inviting me to Stance of the Union. Well, I did the cross-country thing once, and decided I needed more light this time. And my favorite photo of the car to date. used diesel oil instead of turtle wax....... :lol: Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 May 30' date=' 2010[/size'] If I were static, it would have been perfect.. but aired out, they wouldn't tuck as it was. They'd hit right there, and the car would sit too high for my liking... So Cory and I took to the fenders.... If you've ever rolled E28 fenders, you know our pain. Well, you don't, but you think you do. :) August 16, 2010 2 nights of rolling got the rear to where we thought would work... but they were 16s. By this point, I knew I wanted to stay with 17s... so we tested with the ACS and some super spacers... It was sick... but the car still didn't squat down like it should. Realistically, we had a loooong way to go. August 19. 2010 I decided to strip the interior completely. I was tired of the nasty blue garbage that was in there. August 23, 2010 We had talked about chopping the top on rusty an entire year earlier. I had done countless photoshops of it, and had talked about it at length. I realized that it was time. I called up my friend Chuck Yoder, and we made plans. Bigger fenders, chopped top, the whole 9 yards... So we took Rusty to his new temporary home in chuck's garage and got to work. We decided to tackle the fenders first. The inner fenders had to be removed entirely for clearance. We had to cut into the door frames for the tire to have a spot to go. Believe it or not, this made a HUGE difference. Chuck did the fenders with a ball peen hammer. That's it. :) So what next? Well, I guess its time to cut off the roof. Bracing for the chassis, since it will flex when the roof is cut off. Making measurements, tape lines.. Cut number one... no turning back... That looks like a roof... We initially chopped 3" out of the top... and put the roof back into position. We decided it needed more chop, as the look wasn't changed enough from original. Next set of cuts partway done! September 1' date=' 2010[/u'] Skip forward a few days of un-photographed work. A total of 5" chopped out of the pillars. Front halves in place.. rear not so much. Completed with the rear end aired out... September 9, 2010 We've still been working every night. The car sits low.... But not low enough... Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 September 18' date=' 2010[/size'] Roof nears completion It was time for the motor to go in. We'd put it in and out of the car probably 10 times, but this was the first time with the new trans. For those who don't know, one issue with this swap is that the driveshaft has to go in at the same time as the engine, as both ends of it are "slips". The rear goes through the subframe before bolting to the diff. The front is a slip yoke that slides into the trans, so the engine must be lowered into place, sliding over the driveshaft, and then bolted down. It's a PITA. Engine going in: Then making the 3rd driveshaft for the car, so it can go in and we can get the motor into place.. ! Quote Link to comment
510 Bomber Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 all i gotta say about that is, HOLY FUCK, i love that car. will show that to everyone that i know. i know its ur rust forumla, but......do u think u could tell me how u did it? what did u use? LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS beamer. ive had plans of doin the p-40 warhawk design on my datsun for awhile, i hope it looks as great as urs does. thank u for that very long post. it was fun reading. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 . LOL ..... I'm not Mike Burroughs ..... :rolleyes: ...... . .don't you think I'd have better pics of my datsuns if I was??? ... :lol: ... he is kinda secretive about his rust formula ...... . look on google and youtube .... . fake rust chemical treatments are all over in the VW/BMW Euro trash world My 510 was parked in a field for 35 years .. . can't fake that patina .. . :cool: ... Mike Burroughs is my favorite photographer of all time, helps that his car is epic too Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 . Or just search Ratsun: .....How to write up on "fake rust":.. http://community.ratsun.net/topic/21393-how-to-create-fake-rust/page__p__301326__hl__%2Bfake+%2Brust__fromsearch__1#entry301326 Quote Link to comment
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