please help get the goon started!!

[thisisn8n]

hey guys. im trying to get the goon started TODAY because yesterday ended in failure. i know this is a very searchable question, but i was having trouble finding a picture of the firing order. (picture are for people who dont understand words..) i have an L18 with ae87 head .... i just need sum1 to tell me if this is correct

 

the pic is for another car, but looks like what i need to do. except for the direction of the distributer.

 

AND>>>> ive got a dual carb lookin thing goin on and what looks to be two vacuum lines coming off of them. unfortunately i have no idea where they need to go

 

I MUST STATE ON My BEHALF THAT THIS IS MY FIRST DATSUN... FIRST PROJECT.... and the car was a rolling chassis at start (no references) so please excuse my ignorance

 

 

[datzenmike]

Watch this video. It will explain valve timing and distributor position relationship. Hainz video

 

AND>>>> ive got a dual carb lookin thing goin on and what looks to be two vacuum lines coming off of them. unfortunately i have no idea where they need to go

 

Not enough info. It could be anything. Post a picture of it. Here's how to post online pictures

[banzai510(hainz)]

http://olddatsuns.com/620tech.htm

[ariascarlos1990]

Copied from copied from olddatsuns.com

 

[datzenmike]

In Before The Hainz

[ariascarlos1990]

:rofl:

[jefe de jefes]

In Before The Hainz

This!^^^^^^^^

haha. Watch hainz's video. Lots of good info. Good luck bro.

[banzai510(hainz)]

be nice to know if you still have points or a EI ignition also.

 

the blk/wht wire will have 12v when key is ON

then there is a blk/blu wire that is shorted to the blk/grn and you get 12volts during START.

 

if you have this also good chance your going to get this running.

[thisisn8n]

This!^^^^^^^^

haha. Watch hainz's video. Lots of good info. Good luck bro.

 

thanks alot guys. scanned through video a bit. VERY INFORMATIVE... MAD PROPS TO HAINZ!!!

[thisisn8n]

be nice to know if you still have points or a EI ignition also.

 

the blk/wht wire will have 12v when key is ON

then there is a blk/blu wire that is shorted to the blk/grn and you get 12volts during START.

 

if you have this also good chance your going to get this running.

 

yea, i bought a whole new harness and it pretty much all connected (to the parts that are there at least ) haha

[thisisn8n]

ANY got a pic or something of where the vacuum lines lead? there's one coming off each carb

[jefe de jefes]

thanks alot guys. scanned through video a bit. VERY INFORMATIVE... MAD PROPS TO HAINZ!!!

Yes. Massive props to the banzai bro for that vid.

[datzenmike]

Not enough info. It could be anything. Post a picture of it. Here's how to post online pictures

 

You probably have Hitachi SU carbs. These (if you do) are not stock in N Am but there are some around. Because of this they are relatively unknown to most people, how they work how to adjust how to fix. It would be best to post a picture of what you have.

 

Do they look like these???

 

[thisisn8n]

ok, so i found out they are the overflow vents for the float bowls. can these be bypassed?

[thisisn8n]

You probably have Hitachi SU carbs. These (if you do) are not stock in N Am but there are some around. Because of this they are relatively unknown to most people, how they work how to adjust how to fix. It would be best to post a picture of what you have.

 

Do they look like these???

 

 

 

they look pretty similar. ill have to take a pic later today (dont have the cam right now)

[datzenmike]

Join the hoses and run it away from the exhaust and down low. Maybe out to the wheel well. This is to dump excess gas from an overfill condition like a stuck inlet needle or a sunken float. These things don't normally happen, but the vents keep the carbs from spilling gas all over the hot exhaust pipes if it does.

[thisisn8n]

SWEET!!! I'm gonna go try it

[banzai510(hainz)]

what was wrong with the old harness?

 

I dont think it matters in the engine harness but a sedan and wagon were different for the turnsignal swithces.

sedans are 4 pin,wagoons 6 pin.

 

also depending on year the fuse boxes could be different. esp for the head lites where it gets its power from.

[thisisn8n]

Join the hoses and run it away from the exhaust and down low. Maybe out to the wheel well. This is to dump excess gas from an overfill condition like a stuck inlet needle or a sunken float. These things don't normally happen, but the vents keep the carbs from spilling gas all over the hot exhaust pipes if it does.

 

Now guessing this is just a temp solution, is there a overflow catcher doohickey that I should grab for the long run?

[datzenmike]

Perhaps someone else can answer this. I wouldn't think so. This is just to get the fuel away from any sources of ignition. Storing it would be counter productive. Again this is a very unlikely event and just a safety measure.

[thisisn8n]

what was wrong with the old harness?

 

I dont think it matters in the engine harness but a sedan and wagon were different for the turnsignal swithces.

sedans are 4 pin,wagoons 6 pin.

 

also depending on year the fuse boxes could be different. esp for the head lites where it gets its power from.

 

the car came with a couple different hacked up harnesses that werent routed anywhere. due to my lack of datsun knowledge and that i plan on swapping the engine and it was just pretty bare bones. so i figured i start fresh. JEGS 18 curcuit harness was 260. ALOT cheaper than painless.

ohh... theres no turn signal anyway lol

[thisisn8n]

Perhaps someone else can answer this. I wouldn't think so. This is just to get the fuel away from any sources of ignition. Storing it would be counter productive. Again this is a very unlikely event and just a safety measure.

 

I'm only asking because I proposed the idea to my brother but he reacted like this was sum ludicrous idea n suggested that they should lead to something

[banzai510(hainz)]

the car came with a couple different hacked up harnesses that werent routed anywhere. due to my lack of datsun knowledge and that i plan on swapping the engine and it was just pretty bare bones. so i figured i start fresh. JEGS 18 curcuit harness was 260. ALOT cheaper than painless.

ohh... theres no turn signal anyway lol

 

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I guess I cant help from here on out as I know nothing of the jegs or painless harnesses.

Personally never seen anybody actually completeing a full harness swap where everything worked esp for a wagon.

[datzenmike]

Without the vents gas would just spill all over the hot exhaust and vaporize. I have to assume a hose going down beside the steering box and dumping out on the ground and under the car is much more preferable? :)

[thisisn8n]

Without the vents gas would just spill all over the hot exhaust and vaporize. I have to assume a hose going down beside the steering box and dumping out on the ground and under the car is much more preferable? :)

 

Honestly I'm on your side. I know my brother has little experience with carbed cars. Thanks for allthe help man