bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 . Yo Bonvo..... .. this one looks hella-flush: i really wish we had gotten these stateside:( Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Never would have noticed this.... Look at the lower part of the front fender......... . someone in this thread said it looks like a 710 piece of a fender grafted on: Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 it does check out the markers up front its a 6710 :P you know i read this thread and its basically the 610s unite thread all over again Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Those are not USDM 710 side markers though..... kinda looks like these markers:.... ... .. .. what is this?.... .. a Laurel??? Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 yeah its a laurel we so got screwed state side Quote Link to comment
72nismo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I guess I did wake up the 610 community!!! Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 For sale $10k with FJ20 turbo in AUS: That's not an SR20 bruh! You sir ,,,, ,,, are a fucking moron ............. STFU!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 you just proved indy right considering thats a 510 not a 610 its not even close to relevant indy was posting cool swaps into a 610 i posted a pic of a 350 in a 610 this thread is showing that the 610 can have a multitude of swaps done Quote Link to comment
nismo dr Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I thought I was posting that car^^^^ well, then you failed on many levels Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I was more on topic by posting a 510 with a KA because it bolts in just like a SR Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 omfg.......... 1 Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Lots of miss-information: ..... as the KA bolts in just like an SR... No it does NOT ....... the steering center link needs to be modified for SR510s AND SR610s ........ and the stock center link is fine for KA510s and KA710s .... (not shure about KA610s) Look at the MadDat website ....... all their SR 180b conversion kits have a modified center link: http://www.maddat.com.au/180b.php Dawg did you know that L series engines bolt to 610's and 510's the same? And therefore a KA or SR swapped into a 510 would be basically the same as a 610? Shits srs busnes. Again..... you're wrong............. .. 710s and 610s need the KA motor mounts moved back even further than a KA510..... my KA710s motor mounts are almost directly above the front control arm pivot point....... because the transmission would hit the steering center link if the motor was farther forward 510s are MUCH easier to swap a KA24DE .......... the motor mounts don't need to be re-located That's not a SR brah!!! You sir ,,,, ,,, are a fucking moron ............. STFU!!!!!! Well ,,,,, ,, actually everything there is 100% accurate Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 thank you indy Quote Link to comment
280zx2by2 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Lots of miss-information: No it does NOT ....... the steering center link needs to be modified for SR510s AND SR610s ........ and the stock center link is fine for KA510s and KA710s .... (not shure about KA610s) Look at the MadDat website ....... all their SR 180b conversion kits have a modified center link: http://www.maddat.com.au/180b.php Again..... you're wrong............. .. 710s and 610s need the KA motor mounts moved back even further than a KA510..... my KA710s motor mounts are almost directly above the front control arm pivot point....... because the transmission would hit the steering center link if the motor was farther forward 510s are MUCH easier to swap a KA24DE .......... the motor mounts don't need to be re-located That is the variable the makes a KA clear the center link and an SR not? And if you have to move the engine back anyways wouldn't that mean you could fab the engine mounts in the same locations??? Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 That is the variable the makes a KA clear the center link and an SR not? the fact that there 2 completely different motors the fact that the ka is based on the l series to begin with so its a little bit more comparable the fact that the ka is longer then the sr thus the oil pan sump is a little bit further forward Quote Link to comment
280zx2by2 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 the fact that the ka is longer then the sr thus the oil pan sump is a little bit further forward I did not know this. -____- Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I did not know this. -____- i didnt know it eather till i saw them both side by side i saw the ka in shawns old "boso"goon then a sr 510 parked close to it then i measured i dont remember the exact measurements but the ka is a little bit longer then the sr an sr fits in a 510 engine bay better then a ka in terms of length (not a problem with a 610 as the engine compartment is bigger ill try and get ahold of my friend red and take some measurements and see just how much bigger a 610 bay is compared to a 510 Quote Link to comment
Duke Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 That is the variable the makes a KA clear the center link and an SR not? And if you have to move the engine back anyways wouldn't that mean you could fab the engine mounts in the same locations??? I believe that there is some bracing that bolts between the oil pan and the transmission on an SR and this is what interferes with the steering center link. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Interesting.. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 So now the work begins. I decided to mill the supports on the base of the oil pan that hits the center link. A good friend of had a 68 cross member that was already flipped and had motor mounts made so we threw that in there and now able to put a mock in block to start fab work. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 What is the variable the makes a KA clear the center link and an SR not? the fact that there 2 completely different motors Here is the stock S13 KA24DE in my 710: ............. note the flat area next to the bell housing... (where the bracing would be on a SR20): I'm assuming this is also the reason no one does a rear sump SR20.... Quote Link to comment
280zx2by2 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'm assuming this is also the reason no one does a rear sump SR20.... So you couldn't run an SR in a 710 w/o getting some crazy dry sump set up? Never realized how rudimentary KA's are compared to SR's... Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 from what i can tell you only have to clearance part of the sr or have the center link straightened Quote Link to comment
69FJWagon Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 well you could do a few things...flip the center link or install one of Troy Ermishs' steering kits and not have an issue or at least not as big of one... $.02 Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 So you couldn't run an SR in a 710 w/o getting some crazy dry sump set up? I'd imagine it could fit if you cut/flip the front crossmember...... ... and move the motor mounts back.... ... and modify the steering center link.... .. I have a front sump KA24DE in my 710..... . :D I wonder if a 610/180B MadDat conversion kit would fit a 710?: http://www.maddat.com.au/180b.php SWAY BAR PROBLEMS: I tried to fit the DGR 510 front sump sway bar on my KA710: You can see that it will not work for a 610 or 710....... because the T/C rod mounts are VERY different from a 510 So Compression used a MadDat 180B front sway bar on his KA610: Quote Link to comment
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