The datsun kid Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 my 71'521 has a four speed and i want to get a new shifter because its pretty bad and so where would i get one?? Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 they are naturally slopy. You have to sqeeze the fork ends back to gether. to get soem of the slop out ,look closely and you can figure it out. Howevr its hard to get the metel to sqeeze together. I took out that pin and used a bolt to get the slop out Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Mine's always been sloppy. Every 4-speed I've owned have been that way... I just figured that's how they were designed. Looks like I was WRONG. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 The striking pin (19) is the part Hainz is referring to. A bolt could be substituted here, and tightened to remove some slop where the control lever is mounted onto the striking rod (20). Do not over tighten as the control lever must pivot on the pin as the striking rod moves forward and back. It comes as no surprise that this 'A' type shift mechanism is also called the 'monkey motion' shifter. . Quote Link to comment
Madness Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 i threw a washer in for the side to side motion and wrapped some bailing wire around the shaft for the front to back motion. Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 if its l series, this helps a bit... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DATSUN-200SX-510-B110-B210-BRASS-SHIFTER-BUSHINGS-K-/120330246476?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c043dd94c Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Nope, those brass shifter bushings are for the 'B' type shifter made before '80. Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 my 71'521 has a four speed and i want to get a new shifter because its pretty bad and so where would i get one?? if its l series, this helps a bit... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DATSUN-200SX-510-B110-B210-BRASS-SHIFTER-BUSHINGS-K-/120330246476?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c043dd94c Nope, those brass shifter bushings are for the 'B' type shifter made before '80. It is pre 80, something im missing?? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 The 510 car, 521 and very early 620 (and others) used an 'A' type shifter mechanism like this: 521 shifter with mostly external parts. The 'B' type shifter was used from Oct '73 and on in the 620 and looks like this: 620 4 speed shifter. (after '80 the bushings you posted were changed for a different style in the 'B' type shifter) Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Learn something new everyday, thanks mike :D Figured it was something like that but wasn't sure, you got more experience in your pinky than i do my whole body :lol: (specially with tranny's :rofl: ) Quote Link to comment
Braden Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 anybody have a part number on the b type bushings for late 70's 620 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 My shifter in my old 521 could be swung in a circle about the size of a basketball. (in any gear) This was the late '70s and I think I used washers on that pin and a washer and lock washer to squash the two #8 cone shaped rubber bushings to keep the shifter from spinning around. Quote Link to comment
The datsun kid Posted May 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 i think im gonna scrape some cash together and rebuild my 5 speed dogleg i got :cool: Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 i think im gonna scrape some cash together and rebuild my 5 speed dogleg i got :cool: those bushings i posted a link to work on an L series dogleg :D I know you're going to rebuild, just putting that info out there. it got rid of 90 or so % of the slop in my shifter just replacing that! Quote Link to comment
The datsun kid Posted May 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 thanx for lookin out h2theizzo!!!! Quote Link to comment
Chris#51EPGraham Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 For the old style transmissions, I've been working on this: This was a first try. Since I've got four three PL510 4 speeds laying around I was planning to try other variations. If there's any intere$t I could manufacture a solution like this on a core exchange basis. At this point, interested parties can suggest a better design. The basic idea here is to overbore the # 37 aluminum yoke to accept some type of easily replaceable bushing. Installation requires removal/dissassembly of tailshaft but could be done without removing the trans or otherwise rebuilding it. Could also make bushings out of Delrin. A flanged bushing would be better. One dilemma I got into was whether to modify other parts so it accepts an off the shelf 3/4" oilite bushing, or not modify it so the end user has to obtain custom metric size bushings (18mm or about .7085") for replacements. chrisdgraham22@gmail.com PS: does anyone know BB code to make thumbnails line up in a horizontal row? PPS: I guess an admin fixed that for me? Thanks - I'd have never thought it was that simple! Quote Link to comment
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