240sx Coilovers on 280zx Struts

[sssr20det510]

ok so i was reading on the realm about this swap what do you guys think?

 

http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4346&hilit=240sx+coilovers

 

So as far as what coilovers to use looks like he used megan and 8kg spring rate. So how many pound springs are those 8kg is 17.6 lbs ???

[slodat]

Arizona Z Car sells a setup already sorted out that is the very same concept.

[sssr20det510]

I saw that but i was looking to do it myself and save some money there are a ton of 240sx out there so i figure i can pick up a good used set at a decent price

[slodat]

It looks cool. Not sure it is at all necessary. I was very happy with my GC front coil over setup with T3 camber plates and bearing upper hats...

[Cuts metal like mad]

8kg is 17.6 yes... but it is kg/mm. SO 17.6 x 25.4 gives you 447lb/in

 

I did this with a set of tein super drifts a while back for my 510. They ended up in an AE86 instead. People think these high spring rates are ridulously high. Right now I have 400lb/in springs in the front on my 240z and it feels good. Not bone jarring at all. Tire size is a big factor when considering spring rates. Mine are 205-60-15.

 

The AE86 guys seem to prefer 7-8kg/mm front and 5-6kg/mm rear. Those are light cars too.

 

If you're gonna do s13 rear, I'd recommend converting to a dual shear lower mount. The stock single shear setup is probably too weak.

 

Another thing to consider is that some manufacturers use aluminum lower sleeves, the megans are steel which you can obviously weld. The teins I had were steel too.

Edited November 13, 2009 by zuum510

[yellowdatsun]

He was originally asking for 280ZX, although I'm not sure what car he wants to put these on.....but the AZ Z Car setup is for the 280Z, not the ZX.

[Cuts metal like mad]

280zx struts in his 510...

[jesusno2]

I have a set of honda coilovers I'm going to use on my goon got them for 20 bucks at the junkyard. Only problem with the honda stuff is I had to bore the indide of the sleeve to fit over the zx strut tube and I still need tophats for them. Worked out for me but if you don't have a lathe of acess to one your better off just buying some that will fit. Anyone got topa hats for 2.5 springs?? Lol

[DISLEXICDIME]

how much did you bore ?

[jesusno2]

Its not much like 20 thousands I think, I don't remember honestley. It only took a few min once I got the boring bar setup.

[slodat]

He was originally asking for 280ZX, although I'm not sure what car he wants to put these on.....but the AZ Z Car setup is for the 280Z, not the ZX.

 

The arizona z car setup will work on ZX struts just fine, even in a 510. That is the setup I had planned on using. I had talked to Dave about it a few times. Of course the rear is a different story.

[sssr20det510]

ok so ive been digging around on the s12 forums because we can use the s12 struts in the 510 for an upgrade i was wondering what they do for an upgrade, there big upgrade is swapping the whole front suspension from a 240sx lower control arm spindle and coilovers and there rear suspension is similar to ours as well megan actually makes a kit for the s12 with 240sx suspension swap. Its basically front 240sx coilovers and rear is modified to work with there rear suspension so i think it might work with ours as well. i was just thinking about how much cheaper some stuff is

 

adjustable tc rods 70$

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-S13-S14-S15-PILLOWBALL-TENSION-ROD-ADJUSTABLE-RED_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19b574ce4eQQitemZ110418513486QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

adjustable lower control arm 155$

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/godspeed-90-91-92-93-240sx-s13-front-lower-control-arm_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efa016305QQitemZ270482367237QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

megan coilover kit 879$ front and rear with camber plates

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Megan-Street-Coilovers-200sx-s12-with-s13-front_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c0c7465adQQitemZ120468039085QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

so 1104 total plus whatever you can pick up 240sx hubs and brakes

 

now lets add the datsun 510 stuff up tc rods 200$ adjustable lower control arms 180$ i believe. camber plates 200$ front shocks 150$ front coilovers 200$ rear coilovers 560$

 

so 1490$ plus 280zx struts and brakes

 

the 240sx swap is looking pretty good to me

[Cuts metal like mad]

ok so ive been digging around on the s12 forums because we can use the s12 struts in the 510 for an upgrade i was wondering what they do for an upgrade, there big upgrade is swapping the whole front suspension from a 240sx lower control arm spindle and coilovers and there rear suspension is similar to ours as well megan actually makes a kit for the s12 with 240sx suspension swap. Its basically front 240sx coilovers and rear is modified to work with there rear suspension so i think it might work with ours as well. i was just thinking about how much cheaper some stuff is

 

adjustable tc rods 70$

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-S13-S14-S15-PILLOWBALL-TENSION-ROD-ADJUSTABLE-RED_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19b574ce4eQQitemZ110418513486QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

adjustable lower control arm 155$

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/godspeed-90-91-92-93-240sx-s13-front-lower-control-arm_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efa016305QQitemZ270482367237QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

megan coilover kit 879$ front and rear with camber plates

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Megan-Street-Coilovers-200sx-s12-with-s13-front_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c0c7465adQQitemZ120468039085QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

so 1104 total plus whatever you can pick up 240sx hubs and brakes

 

now lets add the datsun 510 stuff up tc rods 200$ adjustable lower control arms 180$ i believe. camber plates 200$ front shocks 150$ front coilovers 200$ rear coilovers 560$

 

so 1490$ plus 280zx struts and brakes

 

the 240sx swap is looking pretty good to me

 

 

Swapping in the whole 240sx suspension is not as easy as you think... its definately gonna be wider, but thats not the biggest hurdle. PM Icehouse if your serious, he's been talking about doing it for a long time. Have you seen everything he HAS done? Yeah, if it was even remotely straight forward, he'd have done it by now.

[sssr20det510]

i figured it would be fully adjustable so you could make it not too much wider

[slodat]

i figured it would be fully adjustable so you could make it not too much wider

 

It is no where near that simple. You will not be saving ANY money with the setup you listed above. Time alone, let alone the fact that you will have to do all of the engineering. This falls into "if you have to ask, you shouldn't do it" category..

[sssr20det510]

I have heard of a few 510s with the whole suspension swap but cant find any pics or write ups on it

[dat510sss]

Arizona Z Car sells a setup already sorted out that is the very same concept.

 

I do think the front coilovers fram Arizona Z-car got the dampening adjuster at bottom, the Megans is on the top.

I would buy a kit from Dave if it was on the top.

 

-Richard