floyd17 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 1. Is it worth it to swap this into a b310? 2. Is it reliable? 3. Is it difficult? 4. How much fabrication is required? 5. Will my brakes be adequate for the power? 6. Transmission mount? Drive shaft? Rear end? 7. Anything I'm forgetting that I should be told. I want to have a car I could leave work from and take to the drag strip. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yes its worth it Yes, it is reliable, if you keep the CA stock Yes its a difficult swap. The same as swapping any turbo motor in Brakes are adequate for the car its in. Brakes are adequate for 75mph driving. Not adequate for stopping as quick as a modern minivan. Yes, it will require a transmission mount, driveshaft and rear end. You can shorten a 210 auto driveshaft. Quote Link to comment
floyd17 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yes its worth it Yes, it is reliable, if you keep the CA stock Yes its a difficult swap. The same as swapping any turbo motor in Brakes are adequate for the car its in. Brakes are adequate for 75mph driving. Not adequate for stopping as quick as a modern minivan. Yes, it will require a transmission mount, driveshaft and rear end. You can shorten a 210 auto driveshaft. How much money should I expect to spend? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Last time I looked, a good used japan CA18DET was $1350 with 5-speed and ECU wiring. It may cost more now, so search. Add to that the cost of an intercooler, 2" exhaust and muffler, and radiator ($100 for new aluminum radiator). If you pay a shop to do it, $5000 to $10,000. Quote Link to comment
floyd17 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yes its worth it Yes, it is reliable, if you keep the CA stock Yes its a difficult swap. The same as swapping any turbo motor in Brakes are adequate for the car its in. Brakes are adequate for 75mph driving. Not adequate for stopping as quick as a modern minivan. Yes, it will require a transmission mount, driveshaft and rear end. You can shorten a 210 auto driveshaft. I expect to keep it stock, and do I have to fabricate mounts? Quote Link to comment
floyd17 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Last time I looked, a good used japan CA18DET was $1350 with 5-speed and ECU wiring. It may cost more now, so search. Add to that the cost of an intercooler, 2" exhaust and muffler, and radiator ($100 for new aluminum radiator). If you pay a shop to do it, $5000 to $10,000. Okay. Thanks for the help. I'm ready to invest in it because I really want a NICE looking fast and fun datsun. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yes, its an engine swap. You will have to fabricate mount brackets. Very similar to L20B mounts, modify the 210 crossmember. Quote Link to comment
floyd17 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yes, its an engine swap. You will have to fabricate mount brackets. Very similar to L20B mounts, modify the 210 crossmember. Ok. This would be my first engine swap. I'm gonna try to assemble as much info and parts as possible before the swap. Thanks for the help. I'm sure I'll have more questions. Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Man, sucks that this is as deep as it gets on info for the CA swap. I have decided to carefully annotate my CA18DET swap and create a helpful thread. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 What do you want to know? I am mid swap, but whenever I have a question I just search google... These are nearly 30 year old motors, so there isnt much to be explored... Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Just kind of what we have for the KA swaps. The big problems one would run into and how others got around it when installing. Such as, for the KA there are steering and crossmember interference. As well, the power steering delete trick. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 CA power steering delete... Remove pump... A lot like AC delete. AC and PS on this motor each have their own belts. Um, CA oil pans fit in the S13 chassis the same as KA/SR. So I would probably modify your truck like KA/SR guys do in that case. CA uses different motor mounts than KA/SR. You are on your own. I ended up using the stock CA brackets and using 3/4" spacer to mount it to my crossmember. Im doing a custom oil pan and custom steering in my car (510) so I was never worried. Um stock turbo location is in the same spot as the steering box on a 510. Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 So what did you do for turbo/steering box clearance? Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Delete the steering box... and go rack and pinion. The only sensible thing of course. Other options would be a top mount turbo, but nah. Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Yeah, I'm not looking to top mount either. What did you pull your rack and pinion off of? curious if there is a easy-ish swap out there. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 There is no easy swap. 510s are rear steer, 620s are front steer. Go check the 620 rack and pinion thread. Again, its not easy, so there is not much info. Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Thanks Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I have a new odd CA18 question. Can I run a ECU from a manual CA on a Auto CA? I know there are two different ECUs for MT and AT, But I'm being told that unless it controls more than speed, the MT ECU should work fine. Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 the obd1 ka engines don't care which ecu so I would be inclined to think the ca will not care. Quote Link to comment
Ratdat.com Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Looking at the ECCS wiring diagram, I can't see why there would be any problem. CAs are fairly old tech. Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thanks guysApparently ECU specification accounts for wiring of reverse lights and neutral lock out. Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Both of which are easily bypassed... Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 What is this? It's under my intake plenum. It has coolant hooked up to it. (And no, I'm not talking about my radiator hook up. I'm dumb, but luckily not that dumb) Quote Link to comment
skyshadow Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 If anyone was curious, You should buy any and all replacement engine parts (timing belt, gaskets..etc) from JDM suppliers like FRsport.com. I was told that if you bought parts for the 1986 Nissan 200SX turbo (which is USDM), you could get parts from places like Autozone. This is totally wrong. Out of the probably 20 engine parts I've ordered, only about half were the right stuff. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 You clearly dont do enough research... http://forums.nicoclub.com/ca18de-ca18det-forum-40.html https://www.facebook.com/groups/113199723523/?fref=nf And all of the other forums since the internet began. Its all out there. PS dont delete that sensor/valve. Quote Link to comment
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