Delta (aka FrankenDatsun)

[ggzilla]

Not the early 200SX but the 2nd Gen - the 1980-1983 200SX.

[4oh4]

I am definitely going to need the best I can get, I was really considering getting a Ford 8.8 and shortening it. Any way I do this swap I have to have a custom driveshaft made, so the yoke isn't going to be a major problem.

[metalmonkey47]

Why not use a VLSD? Easy to find them, and probably a lot more fun to drive on. 

[4oh4]

Why not use a VLSD? Easy to find them, and probably a lot more fun to drive on.

 

What could I find one of those in?

[Lonestar]

The axle from an early 200sx (still Datsun) though rare, are good bolt in axles. They are H190 axles like the trucks IIRC, but with a different spline count. Still 4 link and bolt right in, but with factory rear disks. 

 

Dat's right. 1980 to 1983 only tho, 1984 was when the body style changed and so did the rear to an IRS I believe. If your going to stay with a miata engine, then the H165 will be plenty. If your thinking of anything over 300? then you wanna find the H190. Also, make sure you tighten those front wheel bolts really good, Monkey can tell ya a good story about that!

[4oh4]

I may end up putting a hair dryer on it down the road, which could put me close to 300 (depending on what I have done to the internals). This is going to end up a long term project and may not see much street time for quite some time.

[Lonestar]

I may end up putting a hair dryer on it down the road, which could put me close to 300 (depending on what I have done to the internals). This is going to end up a long term project and may not see much street time for quite some time.

 XD I hear ya, just look at my project. :blush:

[metalmonkey47]

What could I find one of those in?

 

All kinds of stuff. 240's, miata's, best just to hop on 240atlanta and look around. I might know someone with a whole rear IRS setup out of an old S13 coupe. I think he has the axle, struts and everything. Probably be a lot happier making something with IRS work then trying to make a Ford 8.8 fit.

 

Not that the Ford diff is hard, but the irs stuff is plentiful around here.

 

 

Also, make sure you tighten those front wheel bolts really good, Monkey can tell ya a good story about that!

The worst part is, I haven't owned that car in what...like 3+ years and still no one forgets  :rofl: I check my lugnuts every few weeks since that crap...

[4oh4]

I measured up both the one in my 85 300zx and one out of a miata and they are both too long by at least 8 inches. I'm going to see what I can do to shorten them if possible at all.

[metalmonkey47]

Holy hell. That car is smaller then i remember. 


Just cut the halfshafts and weld them together with a proper sleeve. Tadaaaaaa! Redneck engineering that will last forever. 

[4oh4]

Tadaaaaaa! Redneck engineering that will last forever.

 

That is the single greatest line I've seen in a forum. LOL

[Lonestar]

 

All kinds of stuff. 240's, miata's, best just to hop on 240atlanta and look around. I might know someone with a whole rear IRS setup out of an old S13 coupe. I think he has the axle, struts and everything. Probably be a lot happier making something with IRS work then trying to make a Ford 8.8 fit.

 

Not that the Ford diff is hard, but the irs stuff is plentiful around here.

 

 

The worst part is, I haven't owned that car in what...like 3+ years and still no one forgets  :rofl: I check my lugnuts every few weeks since that crap...

 

Not once but that happened like three times to you Monkey?

 

4oh4, sorry for the Hijack man but this little car you got has a lot...I mean A LOT of history here on Ratsun. It's so awesome to see Monkey's (now yours) 210 back on the forums. Your already doing an great job of getting her back in shape. The one thing I can tell you is this, get her running, drive and enjoy the little car! This will give you a feel and sense of what you wanna do. Also you have a car staring at you in pieces in your garage while you try to figure out or find parts you need to get your swap going.

 

 

Yep...Monkey would know all about reneck engineering. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  I kid, I kid! Monkey is a pretty dam good wrencher.

[4oh4]

Well seeing how I will be on this forum quite regularly, y'all can call me Ck.

[Kirden]

Haha, nice. I had hoped this one would pop back up. I resisted the urge to ask Matt where it was being stored when he found it at the tow yard. Sucks about the block, but at least you have good plans for the swap. Good luck man, looks like it is in good hands.

[4oh4]

OK, for this weeks update. its a big one. DRIVETRAIN IS HERE!!!!!!!!

 

sourced at:

 

2001 Chevy blazer rear end (chevy 10 bolt) and wheels (temporary) 

1994 Mazda Miata Engine(191k to be rebuilt), 5 speed Trans (91k), Radiator, fan, and partial wiring harness. 

thats it so far...

 

 

 

old vs new at this point I only had the trans, but the positioning will put the shifter about 6 inches back, which is perfect for such a short throw 

 

 

 

 

And now for the go.

 

 

 

Just a side view.

 

 

 

 

[metalmonkey47]

Nice! I thought about doing that myself before I sold it. Then decided to buy a 620 instead. 

[4oh4]

Ok, so its been a while waiting for parts, BUT I have more updates

 

 

Well the donor engine had 200k on it, so I decided that it should be rebuilt. 

this is the mess that was left over from at least 25k of leaky valve cover gaskets.

 

 

 

so... needless to say, we used our dunk-tank and soaked the block. this is just before we painted it. 

 

 

 

 

and after, (built the motor mounts while we were waiting for parts to arrive.)

 

 

lets go back to the chassis for a bit, that steering HAS GOT TO GO!!

 

 

Might as well pull the cross member and take off those mounts.

 

 

 

 

Bottom half done and Sealed up! While tearing down the engine, we found that the previous donor owner had gone through the engine at some point and replaced the pistons and crank with forged elements!

 

 

 

 

[Lonestar]

Dam dude, that is looking sick! Can't wait to see it when you have the engine and running, should surprise some local honduh's!

[4oh4]

Thanks Lonestar!

 

finished the engine last night and began work on the cross member, we should have it done by later tonight. 

 

 

 

 

This thing is way taller than it looks

 

 

 

 

forgot to mention that while i had the head off, i port and polished it. you can kinda see it here.

 

 

 

 

 

Due to the size of the oil pan, the original steering had to go, so we pulled a manual rack out of a 93 dodge colt. Its not a direct bolt on, so we will have to modify the inner tierod ends, but this is what we have so far (still needs boots).from what I've observed, it also looks like this will give us more steering angle. 

 

[4oh4]

Ok, mega update time. It's been a long time, and i lost a bunch of pics when my phone decided it wanted to be a dolphin. 

I would like to explain why i am now making slow progress on this project, lack of money. Why? because this... my old one was about shot.

 

 

 enough of Hades, back to Delta.

 

 

First off, I had to redo the ENITRE motor mount AND make a custom crossmember

 

 

 

here's another angle, this is with a mocked up steering in it. the angle will be changed eventually...

 

 

Here it is sitting in its new home

 

 

 

With the power that is planned to come out of this, we have to get it to the ground. Blazer rear end? Blazer rear end.

 

 

here's another view BONUS: the car now has disk rears

 

 

 

Here's the goober rig to get some lube in it

 

 

 

Hydro e-brake being mocked for spacing

 

 

 

Fuck it, hair dryer time

 

 

 

if we do that, gotta bake sure we get spark. IIC time!

 

 

Stance, naw. I dig the ass in the air look more. (also, fenders are fixed!!)

 

 

[4oh4]

Well. I hate to say this, but I Have lost interest in the car. If there are any offers on it, let me know. otherwise, I am going to pull everything out of it and scrap the body.