sdsurf Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 On a dogleg 5spd is the shifter mounted in the same location as the stock 4spd for a 521? I saw one and looked like the truck had the gear shift in the stock location. If so what yrs and models did the dogleg come in? Mike Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 '77-'79 200sx (S10) or was it S110?? with L20B. I believe the shifter is in the same location as the 4spd. Will fit all older 510s and 521s and '72.5 and '73 620s with L16 motor. Quote Link to comment
zenndog Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Won't the 200sx dogleg bolt in to a 71 510 as well? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Three-legged-dog_sheila1.jpg I wanta a (200sx) dogleg worst than this guy, of couse I don't deserve it as much. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 It will fit all L16 PL510s, 521s and 620s through '73. I had a three legged cat and a one eyed cat. Quote Link to comment
rAwKStAh! Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 i got my dogleg off a 77 200sx and the shifter is in the stock four speed location the only thing u gotta do is modify ur tranny mount Quote Link to comment
motoricogs Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 What about a 5 speed from a later model 620? Will that fit a '73 620? Quote Link to comment
datsunfish Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 A long shaft tranny should mount up fairly easy in a 73 620 since it has a crossmember as a mount rather than a mount on a welded cross member. You will likely have to relocate it. Long shaft 5 speed in a 521 is kinda lame since it pinches in there tight,relocates the shifter and requires a completely customized tranny mount bracket. I have a dogleg in my 72 620 and it rocks. i have another I plan to put in my 521. If swapping from a short shaft 4 speed you will need to swap out the front of the driveline to a splined piece rather than the 4 bolt. I think. I didnt do the swap in my 620 but I will know more when I do the 521 which may be a while, after I do the brakes in the 510. Quote Link to comment
sdsurf Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I have drive shafts for both dogleg and long tail 5spd. Which is more durable of the two? Also, the hump has been cut to fit the new shifter from a long tail. Quote Link to comment
datsunfish Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The drive shafts should be the same quality. Just different lengths. You will need to use the one that fits to the tranny you have. Short ds for long tranny vice versa. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I have drive shafts for both dogleg and long tail 5spd. Which is more durable of the two? Also, the hump has been cut to fit the new shifter from a long tail. As I understand it the FS5W71B (long) is a bit stronger than the dog leg (short). However there weren't many 200sx cars compared to all the 620/280z/zx vehicles so they have been passed around a bit. Quote Link to comment
dqami Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I've been wanting to install a 5 speed in my 521 also. I take it if I use a dogleg 5 speed, besides relocating the trans mount, I will also need to shorten the driveshaft or is that only w/ the long shaft trans? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The dog leg is the same length as the 521 but the 521 uses an output flange that the drive shaft bolts to. The drive shaft won't bolt to the dog leg as it has a straight spline output. I'm not sure how this is overcome. Perhaps the front drive shaft from a '72-'73 620? Quote Link to comment
datsunfish Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Sorry I thought you meant which drive shaft was stronger.:rolleyes: The dogleg is known to be weaker but I have put the one in my 620 to the test and it holds up fine. L20b and up,doing power breakers might blow it out like all the short 4s I killed. I am pretty sure the 72/73 620s had the short 4 with flange plate so it should have the same driveshaft as the 521. Might be wrong though since the 510 had a spline right? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Sorry I thought you meant which drive shaft was stronger.:rolleyes: The dogleg is known to be weaker but I have put the one in my 620 to the test and it holds up fine. L20b and up,doing power breakers might blow it out like all the short 4s I killed.I am pretty sure the 72/73 620s had the short 4 with flange plate so it should have the same driveshaft as the 521. Might be wrong though since the 510 had a spline right? Not according to my notes. The '70-'72 521 had flange output. The '72.5-'73 had the same identical tranny but with splined output, the same tranny used in the '68-'73 510. Quote Link to comment
sdsurf Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Round about way of answering but I think I am gathering that I would be better served getting a ZX trans and using my already adapted (read cut and welded) driveshaft then bothering trying to find a dogleg. Quote Link to comment
Pacific coast Datsun Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Round about way of answering but I think I am gathering that I would be better served getting a ZX trans and using my already adapted (read cut and welded) driveshaft then bothering trying to find a dogleg. I agree Mike. Thats what i did on my 521. The Z or ZX trannys are readily available at the yards & cheap as well. Quote Link to comment
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