Siqx20 Posted May 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Well that was a pain. Swapped alternators today. The new one pits out like 100 amps. Plenty of power. Now I might actually have wipers that work with my headlights on. If j run my headlights, high beams, blower on high, and wipers it only dips down to about 13 volts maybe a little less at idol. I will throw my volt meter on it tomorrow and get a accurate reading. So anyways. Swapped it in. Did the needed wiring to run a internally regulated alternator and not have the choke relay hot all the time. That was fun. Anyways, atleast now when I'm driving in the rain at night I have over 11.5 volts. Unlike before. 1 Quote Link to comment
denmarkboy Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Hey bro, if you ever need a hand or a shop hit me up. I am usually around,I am no expert but I have 2 hands and a warm shop. Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted May 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Thanks I will keep that in mind. I work at a Kendall Cadillac as a tech so I got the shop, tools, and lift thing covered for the most part. But I'm always down to wrench over a few beers ;) Quote Link to comment
denmarkboy Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 sweet deal there..right on right on ! Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Got bored at the shop today. And the exhaust looked ghetto dumping out the side....So she got a new tip ;) 1 Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 So every day since my alternator swap I have bad to jump my battery in the morning. I disconnected the choke relay heater since the choke isn't doing anything at the moment anyways. I thought it was my battery so I swapped in a new one that was charged. Let it sit at work for my entire shift (10 hours) and when I went to start it it was dead. So this was a serious draw. Well I checked amperage inline with the battery circuit and it was like 6amps! So I started tinkering with things. When I unhooked the plug from the back of my alternator the amps would drop to zero (hmmmm that's weird) checked the voltage out of the back of the plug and in the key off position I had full voltage (12.xx V) so obviously I had a problem. My field wire (think that's what the "F" stands for on the plug) was back feeding voltage when the key was off. So I wired a diode inline with the circuit. Problem solved. I no longer had a draw and everything worked like it was supposed to. I didn't read a out anyone else having to do this when they went to a IR swap. So I thought this was kinda weird. Either way. She is happy and charging and holding said charge now. Quote Link to comment
Boaty Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Is your charge lamp hooked up correctly?If it's not wired correctly, technically the alternator will always be on. This is why when the charge lamp is missing or burned out, the alternator will not charge. What it sounds like to me is the lamp circuit was closed so it was always 'charging' because the alternator is always excited. Even when not rotating it would still be on, since it's not powered by the IGN switch, it's directly wired.You might double-check the wiring and see if you have the +12V side of the two external wires backwards from the lamp circuit. An easy way to check would be to remove the charge lamp and see if the alternator charges. If it still charges with no lamp present, then it's a closed circuit and you need to fix it. The lamp itself provides the necessary resistance to allow the alternator to charge while rotating, and in the event of alternator failure the lamp is then grounded via the circuit, hence why the charge light illuminates during a malfunction.Keep in mind that an LED will NOT work in place of a charge lamp because LED will only allow voltage to flow one direction (non-bidirectional). Hence why there is a specific (+) and (-) side of an LED. The circuit breaks the ground and kills the bulb, and the alternator charges. I used a small 3/8" accessory lamp from CarQuest myself.If your alternator is self-exciting (GM One-Wire) then ignore all the above. Delco CS-105/6/7 require a lamp I believe. The saturn alternator is a Delco CS105. If yours is an overwound stock unit it should still require a lamp. I bet this is where your problem lies. Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I been drinking and that's to much to read haha. My alot light never illuminates. I feel like it used I tho. What does that mean mr boatman? Quote Link to comment
Boaty Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 It means there is no continuity. Meaning the alternator isn't charging. There is no resistance.Look up how charge lamps work. :) Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 But I am charging. 14v strong. Quote Link to comment
chester Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I had the same problem when I put my ka alt in the goon. I had to switch the wires around at the plug. and since I haven't had a problem Quote Link to comment
Boaty Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 The problem is you're not charging when the engine isn't running.But it's TRYING to. So you're just discharging. No energy is free. Takes some to make some.No Jap-Tin will ever be a perpetuual motion machine. :)Swap your wires. W/R is usually your hot ones. Not sure on the pickups. Think the 510's had w/r and y/g or just Y. W/R just loops to +12 @ the charge post, and the other goes to your lampy lamp. Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 That's just it. I AM charging. Been charging since now. Pretty sure my truck wouldn't be starting still if it wasnt charging. Quote Link to comment
Boaty Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Here's an easy test. Unplug the charge bulb, and see if it still charges.Also see if it causes a draw. Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Here's an easy test. Unplug the charge bulb, and see if it still charges. Also see if it causes a draw. How are yah Steve Quote Link to comment
Boaty Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I am good, sir. You're gonna be at Canby, eh? Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I am good, sir. You're gonna be at Canby, eh? Not this year Steve... Search Mrs510freak here buddy... Steph is not well Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Changed the oil in the Datto today, alternator is working well now. Not sure why it was working funky and draining the battery but its working good now. Swapped out the shitty tail lights and housings for a better set I had. Replaced a few burnt out bulbs, and fixed the right blinker issue it had. One step closer to rolling to canby. Quote Link to comment
Radim Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Throw 15s on that bish, Make it Merlot 2 Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I have some sweet 15" rally's with some bronze powder. But I'm waiting till I have some extra cash for tires. Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Washed and ready for canby :) 2 Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted June 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Couple pics on the way and at canby. Also with Adams truck, and Jessi's wagon. Don't forget Steve and Cody's dimes. 2 Quote Link to comment
Siqx20 Posted June 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Also thinking about raising the truck up maybe a inch or two. Haven't decided yet. Saw a couple other trucks at canby that were not as low with similar wheel sizes. And they looked good. A little more ground clearance and suspension travel would be nice too. Idk. I'm so torn. 1 Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 bring it up one inch man, ur tires will be more flush with the tops of your wheel wells. and your spine and kidneys will love you for it ;) Quote Link to comment
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