ProsperPerformance Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Anybody have a guess on what I can expect to pay for an H190 rear-end from a pick-a-part/pull-a-part salvage yard? Quote Link to comment
datsunaholic Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Depends how they charge- if they charge for every single bit, or as an assembly. Probably under $150 though. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 A H190 from a Datsun 320 is narrower than the stock B210 axle, so it needs no shortening. Pick-n-Pull Dallas charges $135 complete with brakes. Quote Link to comment
ProsperPerformance Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 ...Are there any other vehicles that you can source an H190 from? I know 81-83 200sx is primary candidate for B210 swap,... and I defiently want rear disc brakes. I know they used an H190 in the D21 trucks, but my guess is that its different than what I need for my B210ZX. Here's what I found on: http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=13487 Sources for H-190 3.889 third members: '80-'84 Maxima wagon with 3.364, 3.545 and 3.70 ratios. '82-83 200sx auto 3.70 and manual 3.545 '80-'82.5 720 2wd manual 3.889 '82.5-'83 720 2wd auto 3.70 manual 3.545 '83.5-'86 720 diesel 3.889 '83-'86 720 2wd auto 3.889 and manual 3.70 In all cases the rear end ratio is stamped into the aluminum engine tag located on the passenger side cowl area on cars and on passenger side inner fender under hood hinge on the 720. I would not bother with the 720 4X4 as the ratios are 4.11 and above. The H-190 was used also in the D-21 Hardbody and up through the '90s but I'm not as familiar with those models. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 81-83 200sx is NOT good for the B210. It's too wide, and it doesn't bolt in, it has 4-link connectors instead of leaf spring plates for the B210. The primary swap candidate is 320 pickup. The 200SX units work in the B310 (210). Here is a list of vehicles that used the H190: Datsun SPL311/SRL311 "Roadster/Sports" Datsun 410/411 Datsun 510 Wagon Datsun 320 Pickup Datsun 520 Pickup Datsun 620 Pickup Datsun 720 Pickup Datsun S110 "200SX" from 1982-1983 (disk brakes) Nissan S12 "200SX" 1984 (drum brakes) Datsun 810 wagon Datsun 910 wagon "810" Nissan D21/D21U pickup Nissan D22 pickup Quote Link to comment
ProsperPerformance Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 81-83 200sx is NOT good for the B210. It's too wide, and it doesn't bolt in, it has 4-link connectors instead of leaf spring plates for the B210. The primary swap candidate is 320 pickup. The 200SX units work in the B310 (210). Here is a list of vehicles that used the H190: Datsun SPL311/SRL311 "Roadster/Sports" Datsun 410/411 Datsun 510 Wagon Datsun 320 Pickup Datsun 520 Pickup Datsun 620 Pickup Datsun 720 Pickup Datsun S110 "200SX" from 1982-1983 (disk brakes) Nissan S12 "200SX" 1984 (drum brakes) Datsun 810 wagon Datsun 910 wagon "810" Nissan D21/D21U pickup Nissan D22 pickup Have you see the bodykit on my B210ZX?... Wider is better for me,.. I got room.... and I can cut off the 4link & fab leaf spring pads if needed. My guess is D21 pickups had drum brakes (not disk) ... correct? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yes, it might work well for a widebody modified B210, but is not a primary swap candidate for B210 in general, let's not confuse the kiddies. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 D-21s are about 60" wide I think. Why not an H-165? Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Didn't the 510 wagons have an H190? Quote Link to comment
ProsperPerformance Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 D-21s are about 60" wide I think. Why not an H-165? Will an H165 handle the torque from a tuned KA24E swap? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Probably, but not the torque of a stock KA24E. If you build it for high RPM, the torque can drop a lot, and might live behind an H165. I wouldn't use it, go for the H190. Quote Link to comment
Kisor Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Trucks are going to be 6 lug flanges. Just wanted to point that out since it wasn't mentioned yet. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Didn't the 510 wagons have an H190? Yeah and fairly narrow, and leaf spring. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 The truck rear-end will work well, those 6-lug axles are extra strong. Quote Link to comment
BEANZIE Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 The truck rear-end will work well, those 6-lug axles are extra strong. How would you go about changing the 6 lug hubs from a d21 axle to a 4 lug? Quote Link to comment
datsa73 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I have a H190 from a 320 in my 1200. The width is just right. You will have cut your leaf spring supports off of your B210 H150 and mount them outboard on the H190. The H165 may or may not hold up for your application. Quote Link to comment
DaBlist Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I know this is an old thread but when I hear H190 I wonder if they are going to want a Limited Slip / Posi too? Once you have the strength you find yourself wanting traction and I hear Limited Slip can be hard to come by for the H190. Quote Link to comment
datsa73 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I welded my spider gears. I only drag with it. Quote Link to comment
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