thanks man you and ezcruiser have been a big help so far, i could spend probably anywhere from 1000$ to a penny just whatever you guys come up with, i dont care if its a little rusted i can work with pinholes, surface rust, etc. but i would rather not have a 620 thats falling a part unless im going to use it for parts, also i would like to thank everybody for replying to this thread so quickly, one more thing my grandpa has a 4 door dime that im sure he would give me, im not sure of its condition other than its interior and engine is stripped but i know he has all the parts in his shop the body has been sitting outside for 10+ years so i might try and get it and trade it if you know anybody interested, did i mention that the engine has 3000 original miles!!! auto tranny though :(, anyways i will check into the dime and take pics and put them in my albums soon, THANKS!