copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hi, 1968 520 steering gear. I'm after someone that can either get me these parts or I can have them sent to them from RockAuto then shipped to me cheaper than what they offer. In Australia there is a company that has a idler arm for sale for $140 plus $12 to post to me. That is ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY DOLLARS for a idler arm. This same part is $24 on RockAuto - Part No: 48530-B0105. The shipping from the states is a killer from RockAuto, so if someone could help me out that would be great! I also need a outer tie rod end (here in australia we call it near-side, near-side being the curb side and since we drive on the opposite side of the road I'm hoping you know which side I'm talking about) it is our passenger side here. Also if any aussies know of a mob that stocks these two parts I'd be greatly informed as I've been researching to no avail! Cheers, Geordie Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Do you have details about shipping from here to there? You take care of most of the logistics, and I'll give ya a hand. My zip is 99320?Washington State. LMK. Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Shipping to AUS is through US Postal Service $45 Flat-rate box. Easy-peasy. Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Oops, they are DIFFERENT LHD 48530-20600 COMP,-BODY,IDLER 48531-07400 RHD 48530-20500 ASS'Y-IDLER 48531-07200 Why don't you just fix it? There's a plain bushing and a threaded bushing. Link to comment
wayno Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 The 520 idler arm is huge, you don't want that style, the other issue is that are(USA) 520 idler arm would do you no good, as are steering gear is on your pass. side, we have no 520 idler arms for you over here unless they are specificly for RHD. Try looking this up over there, as it is much smaller, you can use the 1968-72 datsun 521 idler arm, and if you cannot find it over there, the american one will also work for you, as it will go on either side, though the holes with nuts will not be correct, the other set of holes will work, you just have to use lock nuts on the bolts, and it doesn't use the upper mount either, 2 bolts hold it on, not 3. As for the outer tierod assembly, 521 parts will also work, as they are the same, at least over here they are. Shipping is expensive to Austrailia from the Washington state area, by the time you get your part, it might be more expensive. This is the idler arm I am talking about on ebay USA. http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-70-79-Datsun-Pickup-Truck-521-620-Idler-Pitman-Arm-/330671200515?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3A521+Pickup&vxp=mtr&hash=item4cfd8a1903 This is one on ebayAU (Austrailia). http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/69-70-71-72-73-74-75-76-77-78-79-NISSAN-PICK-UP-TRUCK-521-620-IDLER-ARM-NEW-MOOG-/230738347921?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b913c791 Could not find these on ebayAU, but they are on ebay USA. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Tie-Rod-Assembly-1965-79-Nissan-Datsun-520-521-620-/270725493233?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3A521+Pickup&vxp=mtr&hash=item3f087f31f1 And another one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Tie-Rod-Assembly-1965-79-Nissan-Datsun-520-521-620-/280649410853?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3A521+Pickup&vxp=mtr&hash=item4158022925 I don't know any of these sellers. Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I also need a outer tie rod end (here in australia we call it near-side, near-side being the curb side and since we drive on the opposite side of the road I'm hoping you know which side I'm talking about) it is our passenger side here. That is the Right side innit? Which in the USA is called the "right" side. Nissan calls it the "Side Rod, Right Hand" 48510-08701 or 48510-20500 or 48510-B5000 LHD & RHD Nissan $160 USD 999 Japan (OEM) All the usual Taiwan wholesale companies list it, can you find it in AUS at Repco? Supercheap? Bursons? Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Do you have details about shipping from here to there? You take care of most of the logistics, and I'll give ya a hand. My zip is 99320?Washington State. LMK. Thanks! appreciate that! Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 The 520 idler arm is huge, you don't want that style, the other issue is that are(USA) 520 idler arm would do you no good, as are steering gear is on your pass. side, we have no 520 idler arms for you over here unless they are specificly for RHD. Try looking this up over there, as it is much smaller, you can use the 1968-72 datsun 521 idler arm, and if you cannot find it over there, the american one will also work for you, as it will go on either side, though the holes with nuts will not be correct, the other set of holes will work, you just have to use lock nuts on the bolts, and it doesn't use the upper mount either, 2 bolts hold it on, not 3. As for the outer tierod assembly, 521 parts will also work, as they are the same, at least over here they are. Shipping is expensive to Austrailia from the Washington state area, by the time you get your part, it might be more expensive. This is the idler arm I am talking about on ebay USA. http://www.ebay.com/...=item4cfd8a1903 This is one on ebayAU (Austrailia). http://www.ebay.com....=item35b913c791 Could not find these on ebayAU, but they are on ebay USA. http://www.ebay.com/...=item3f087f31f1 And another one. http://www.ebay.com/...=item4158022925 I don't know any of these sellers. GAAAHHH! Wayno! I was all excited thinking you'd found what I need. I've since realised that the one on rockauto is wrong as well. Take a look at the pics below of what I'm dealing with... I didn't both cleaning it for the pic - no time when I was down in the garage. Almost looks like it might be missing a nut on the left side of the shaft. See how the top bolts on the other side of the chassis?!?! I don't know if this is standard or not... Basically I'm looking for THAT, what ever THAT is.. You can see I need the thread tie rod end not the bolt style ones. Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Oops, they are DIFFERENT LHD 48530-20600 COMP,-BODY,IDLER 48531-07400 RHD 48530-20500 ASS'Y-IDLER 48531-07200 Why don't you just fix it? There's a plain bushing and a threaded bushing. Yeah! the top one is the one I need.... Any leads?? I'll make some more calls tomorrow to local shops. http://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun520/Datsun520521Index/SteeringFrame/SteeringIdlerArm/tabid/1488/Default.aspx Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 You need a Left-hand Drive idler arm? Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I may just have to look at getting it repaired but because it is a 'roadworthy' issue I would prefer to have it replaced so it passes the inspection. Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 You need a Left-hand Drive idler arm? whole assembly.... sigh* Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Is your 520 pickup RHD or LHD? Wayno and some other guys here have removed the antique 520 unit and bolted-on the improved 521 unit: 555 is Nissan OEM. Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 it is RHD - sorry.... my mistake earlier, no wonder I was confusing you. oh okay - I'm following the idea now. Would need to tap n die into the chassis wouldn't you to fit the newer idler? That would be engineering territory.... Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 ok... I'm going to commit to buying the 521 idler arm and replace as per wayno's method. With the outer and innner tie rods that screw on like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/68-72-Nissan-520-Pickup-521-Pickup-Tie-Rod-End-ES2529-/370526253594?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3A521+Pickup&vxp=mtr&hash=item564515f21a there isn't a difference is there? It is just so you know which one needs replacing, correct? Inner and outer look identical.. Link to comment
yello620 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 ok... I'm going to commit to buying the 521 idler arm and replace as per wayno's method. With the outer and innner tie rods that screw on like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/68-72-Nissan-520-Pickup-521-Pickup-Tie-Rod-End-ES2529-/370526253594?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3A521+Pickup&vxp=mtr&hash=item564515f21a there isn't a difference is there? It is just so you know which one needs replacing, correct? Inner and outer look identical.. Inner and outer tie rods will be different. One is RH thread and one is LH thread. Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Thats also a problem. Our outer tie rods are fixed. It's the drag link/center link/cross rod that has the adjuster sleeves. Or maybe that's just a year thing? Link to comment
copydat Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'm pretty sure the adjustable tie rods isn't a standard thing, the guy I bought the Datto off had this modified to control toe-in etc. Good setup but I don't know what vehicle it is off to get replacement parts for. Thanks for the tip about the reverse thread.... again not thinking.... Link to comment
wayno Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 OK coptdat, if you look at the part below you can see it has 4 holes, the lower right hole has a nut welded on the back, that is the nut for left hand drive trucks, but since it has 4 holes, it will go on either side. If you look close you will see that the hole with the nut is not being used, this is my truck with the same idler arm installed on the driverside where are steering gear is supposed to be, and this is how yours would be installed also. And for those of you that are wondering how I steer my truck now, I had a custom steering center link made, with a tierod connection put on the pass. side near the tierod, and the steering gear is forward of the idler arm, on the outside of the frame, and that shaft is just under the driverside idler arm. Link to comment
wayno Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'm pretty sure the adjustable tie rods isn't a standard thing, the guy I bought the Datto off had this modified to control toe-in etc. Good setup but I don't know what vehicle it is off to get replacement parts for. Thanks for the tip about the reverse thread.... again not thinking.... The outer tierods you have are not stock, but I have a set I found in a wrecking yard, check to see if the center link has the same tierods, if they are the same, you could just order centerlink tierods, and install them on your ajustable outer links. Link to comment
copydat Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 great Wayno! Oics help heaps! Link to comment
wayno Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 The outer tierods you have are not stock, but I have a set I found in a wrecking yard, check to see if the center link has the same tierods, if they are the same, you could just order centerlink tierods, and install them on your ajustable outer links. I was wrong about the statement above, the tierods are differant, one is male, and the other is female, it won't work. Do 620s have ajustable outer tierods? What you need is out there, you just need to figure out what your tierods came off of. Link to comment
copydat Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm going to take it to a steering shop to source the replacement end. I've ordered the new idler arm... Breaking the steering joints is a real bitch. I don't have a press so I need the shop to take it apart for me. I've learnt my lesson trying to get steering bits apart before.... Link to comment
copydat Posted March 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Ended up getting the shop to reco the antique idler..... Dropped so much coin! Also have a later model idler for back up now..... I'll throw up a oic of the clean and refurbished arm. Link to comment
copydat Posted March 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 As promised.... 300 and something dollars later with a new tie rod..... It does handle a whole lot better tho. :D P.S - don't ask me about the huge gash in the mount behind it... I have no idea what the previous owner was thinking... I'll change it when the CA is in. Right now, I just don't want to know about it, if it shears straight thru and drops the engine, then so be it.... Link to comment
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