jaime.g Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'm on the hunt for an h190 out of an 82+ 200sx to go into my b210. I found one at a junkyard and I just want to verify the axle is NOT an h165 before I go pulling it out. I did not have a ruler with me to measure the axle height which I hear is a sure way to find out. Would any of you be able to tell just from looking at the pics below if this is indeed an h190? I do realize that the he35 stands for the gear ratio of 3.5, which is not exactly what I wanted. I guess it would do for now as I could get a third member of 4.x+ later on. Any help is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 H190 The ID plate says HE HC - H165 HD - H190 HE - H190 HF - H190A Also for 1982 the S110 only came with H190 Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Also the ID plate has the year. The 10th digit of the Chassis Number is the model year: C = 1982 9 = 1979 A = 1980 B = 1981 C = 1982 Quote Link to comment
jaime.g Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Also the ID plate has the year. The 10th digit of the Chassis Number is the model year: C = 1982 9 = 1979 A = 1980 B = 1981 C = 1982 ggzillla, you sir, are quite awesome. Thank you! Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 You can also go by the size. H165 is 165mm ring gear (6.5 inch) while 190mm is 8.5 inch. If the bolts of the case are not more than 8.5 inches, it can't be an H190 1 Quote Link to comment
jaime.g Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 noted. Thanks. Also, am I crazy for wanting to go with the h190 out of the 200sx as it is 4 link for my b210? I want it because of 4 lug and disc brakes, but I do understand it's a bit wider and modifications are definitely needed such as cutting off un-needed mounts for coil springs and struts and making new mounts for struts on my b210. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Several others have already done it. best wishes. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 ...and they said it bolted right in, no cutting. I have an '80 and '81 engine tag and they say HC and it is/was an H-165. Quote Link to comment
jaime.g Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 ...and they said it bolted right in, no cutting. I have an '80 and '81 engine tag and they say HC and it is/was an H-165. i did see the post of the guy who just recently swapped in a ka into his 310 and used an h165 which I believe bolted in without cutting as the 310 is 4 link, but I'm going to putting the h190 into a b210. I haven't seen a thread or seen anything online about someone doing a 200sx h190 swap in a b210, although I realize it likely has been done before many times. One thing I was/am concerned with is how much wider the h190 would be versus the h150. For some reason I though the 310 had a wider axle than the b210, but apparently they're the same h150 axle. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 B210 has leaf springs, S110 has coil springs. So you will be doing some cutting somewhere. H150 is not an axle -- is only the center differential. Approximate widths of axle assembly: * B210: 1305 mm * B310: 1360 mm * S110: 1372 mm That makes it about 2 3/4" wider. Most guys use FWD-type offset wheels, so they tuck up under the B210 body. Well, most guys use the H190 rear axle assemebly from a 320 pickup, as it uses leaf springs and is narrower than the B210 unit. They use S110 if they want rear discs. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 H190 The ID plate says HE HC - H165 HD - H190 HE - H190 HF - H190A Also for 1982 the S110 only came with H190 Add.. HG - H233 D21 Hardbody and WD21 Pathfinder I had an '80 and '81 S110 and they are H-165. The '82-'83 with Z22 motors were H-190. All S110 had rear disc but the H-190 were more substantial looking. Quote Link to comment
derricklong38 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 you have pm jamie.g :( why cant i find a 200sx in the yards around here lol Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 for the same reason I can't find any Superbirds in the yards around here ... man that 200SX has a huge rear anti-sway bar Quote Link to comment
Dime Dave Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Count the bolts holding the carrier into the axle housing H190 has 10, H165 has 8. H190 (top) & H165 (bottom) Link on Datsun 1200 about different Datsun straight axles. Rear Axle Swaps Quote Link to comment
jaime.g Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 So I picked up that rear end with driveshaft and all, and it has been taking up space in my garage since. I haven't made time to get working on this project and have no plans to anytime soon. I'll be posting this for sale soon. I'm in San Antonio, TX if anyone is interested. Quote Link to comment
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