ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 hey guys my father inlaw broke this on my transmission i am in sacramento ca i need this right now. just the trans part not the barring i dont even no what this is called. call 916-690-5587 Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Its the throw out bearing colar. What clutch are you using? You can order the bearing with the colar on it. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 It's known as the release bearing collar or the bearing housing. It comes in several sizes that matches it to the pressure plate that you are using. If you know what pressure plate you have and what vehicle/year I can get you the part number for the Nissan dealer. Be sure that you compare them when you get it or the clutch may not engage/disengage properly. Oh good, thanks Dislexic . Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I have no idea what year the transmission is from but it's a 5 speed. It's being bolted up to a l20b here isthe part number to the clutch I set I got. Sac kf594-01 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 The transmission and motor do not really matter. That number isn't Nissan, maybe someone can cross reference it?. What diameter is the clutch/pressure plate? Link to comment
ggzilla Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Nissan part number 30501 SLEEVE-BEARING CLUTCH RELEASE SLEEVE This part DOES matter what transmission and engine combo it is for. There are 3 or 4 different lengths. The bearing itself is the same for most Datsuns. Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I got Pictures I will post. Soon. I have 8 3/4 inch I think or 8 7/8. 24 spline Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 ok i pulled trans out here are picks guy i got it from said its a 280 z 5 speed. i hope you guys can enlighten me on what it is so i get the right part. i also need arm that connects to throw out barring.. oh also there are 3 sensors only 2 of which were hooked up can you guys tell me what they are no talking about speedo. and i asume one is for reverse lights. and if there is a diffrent number to id this trans let me know where to look. thanks Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 The tran does not. Matter we need to know what size clutch you have 200 mm 225 or 240 that way we know what pressure plate you have. So google yourpart number and see what comes up. Then buy a sleave and throw out bearing to mach. Or just messure your sleeve and start looking up 620 510 or z car sleeves and mach the length Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Or just use gg zillas handy pic to id it Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 the only info i can find is out side diameter is 8 7/8 inside diameter is 1in and 24 teeth Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Nissan part number 30501 SLEEVE-BEARING CLUTCH RELEASE SLEEVE This part DOES matter what transmission and engine combo it is for. There are 3 or 4 different lengths. The bearing itself is the same for most Datsuns. I beg to differ. The collar size has nothing to do with the transmission or engine size and is totally dependent on the type of pressure plate size used. If you had an L16 510 with a stock 200mm clutch/pressure plate and flywheel and a stock 510 F4W63 4speed, you could swap in a 240z F4W71A, 260 or 280z F4W71B 4 speed, or a 280z or zx FS5W71B 5 speed, or a 200sx FS5W63A 5 speed and it would work equally well with all of them. By swapping an L bell onto the later FS5W71C from a KA powered 240sx you could run that too. Likewise the same 200mm clutch/pressure plate/ release bearing and collar could be bolted to a 6 bolt 200mm flywheel and installed on any Z series motor and 5 speed or even an L six cylinder 4 or 5 speed (non turbo of course) and it will work just fine. Yes there are many collar sizes to reflect the finger height of the pressure plate, but the collar does not know or care what motor is in front of it nor what transmission is behind it. The 280z normally only had a reverse light switch, however the '79 California 620 truck did have the reverse, neutral and top gear switches like this one.... Link to comment
ggzilla Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 8-7/8 inches = 225 mm. Which makes sense as most L20B use this size clutch Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 so how to i figure out how many mm my pressure plate is. and my datsun l20b is a 6bolt flywheel if that helps. also i was at auto parts stores all day and they dont have any of the collars ive looked for 10 years worth of cars and they have nothing is this a dealer part or order online? Link to comment
ggzilla Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Mike, that depends on how to look at it. Datsun only fitted certain combos, and those are dependent on the engine/trans year & model combintation. For example, with A-type transmissions (per the photo) knowing the clutch cover height cannot tell you which length sleeve you need. But I'll agree your method is more relevent now, especially when parts have been swapped around. In any case what he needs to do (assuming it was the correct length sleeve to start with) is merely measure his existing broken sleeve and get a replacement that is the same length. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 the only info i can find is out side diameter is 8 7/8 inside diameter is 1in and 24 teeth Measure across the friction surface on the flywheel or across the clutch disc. This one is a 240mm but there are 225mm and 200mm. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Mike, that depends on how to look at it. Datsun only fitted certain combos, and those are dependent on the engine/trans year & model combintation. For example, with A-type transmissions (per the photo) knowing the clutch cover height cannot tell you which length sleeve you need. But I'll agree your method is more relevent now, especially when parts have been swapped around. In any case what he needs to do (assuming it was the correct length sleeve to start with) is merely measure his existing broken sleeve and get a replacement that is the same length. Agreed. Link to comment
ggzilla Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 ricky, this isn't hte kind of part sold typicllay in a parts store -- it doesn't normally wear out. You can get one from Nissan dealer or from a wrecking yard. Or maybe on eBay. Or from another Datsun guy. Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 ok im doing a l16 to l20 swap. so i pulled the l16. the l20 came with a flywheel that i had resurfaced i got a clutch to match it. the transmission came in the car when i bought it and it was bolted to the l16. so the collar was being used on a l16 clutch which it was a 7 7/8 clutch. which i would assume is the 200mm. so i was going to use the collar that was used on the l16 clutch untill it broke. so... saying my clutch is a 225 which size collar should i get and where can i get it? Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 so when i go to dealer what car should i say i need it for or do i just give them the part number you guys posted and tell them which size i need. also the arm and the collar are vary worn the previous owner or owners of this car where very hard on it.. the car only had one starter bold and only 3 motor to trans bolts. i think this car has changed hands allot so im trying to fix all the stuff the other owners did not. my poor little car Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 ok im doing a l16 to l20 swap. so i pulled the l16. the l20 came with a flywheel that i had resurfaced i got a clutch to match it. the transmission came in the car when i bought it and it was bolted to the l16. so the collar was being used on a l16 clutch which it was a 7 7/8 clutch. which i would assume is the 200mm. so i was going to use the collar that was used on the l16 clutch untill it broke. so... saying my clutch is a 225 which size collar should i get and where can i get it? Good thing it broke because that one wouldn't be the right length for a 225mm clutch. Just ask for any '75-'79 620 truck collar. They all used the 225mm clutch. The Nissan number is 30501 N1600 Link to comment
ricky Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 ok thanks guys if i am able to get part tomorrow. i will post results oh and back to the sensors on side of trans the only one i know is reverse lights. so im not sure what others are for Link to comment
ggzilla Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 The other sensors you do not need. They are * Top gear * Nuetral Both are for emission controls. Link to comment
Abe Froman Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Here is some more info, hope it helps. If I am reading this right the stock 4 speed sleeve is the 38.5mm You might check your local dealer, Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Those are for the 200m clutch, I think he said it was a 225mm. Try this... Link to comment
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