fastdadd Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 i might be buying a b210 gtx tell me your knowledge...what motor combos goods and bads and what can interchange with it...springs and what not Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 i am going to go look at this car here in about an hour....anything Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 I had a '78 GX (not familiar with a GTX). It had an A14 with a dogleg 5-speed. It had sat with a blown head gasket for several years so I never actually drove it. Many of the frontend (ball joints and tie-rod ends) components are same as early 510, so I would assume that ZX struts can be used. The rearend should be H-150 with a 3.70 gear with leaf springs. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 thank you...i know not about these..it might be a gx i was just told about it have not seen it Quote Link to comment
skunk Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 you better bring your cam, and get us some pics if you know whats good for you :lol: Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 yeah yeah yeah....what YOU going to do about it Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 :poke: :D :D :D Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) The GX was like a higher performing car over the standard. It had stiffer valve springs with are sought after by guys that want forced induction. The GX head is typically used in race applications. What year is the B210? Standard - least expensive model Semi-Deluxe - for Vans Deluxe - upgraded model Super-Deluxe - for Vans GL (Grand Luxe) - luxury model GX (Grand Luxe special), available as 4-dr or CoupeJDM: Highest trim levelSome GX models had the A12T or A14T twin-carb engine Other GX models had the A12S or A14S single-carb engine [*]USA: GX models had a standard A14S (single-carb engine) EngineMost B210s outside of North American were fitted with the redesigned A12 engine, hence the 120 in "120Y". North American models were fitted *only* with the high-line engines, namely the A13 for 1974, and the A14 for 1975-1978. USA GX models use the single-carb engine (A14S). Some JDM GX models used the A12S or A14S single carb engine, and some used twin-carb engines(A12T or A14T). TransmissionA12 and A13 models were fitted with the 56-Series transmission, a four speed. A14 models, having extra torque, required a heavier-duty transmission so the the 60-Series transmission 4-speed was fitted. A12T Five-speed models (GFK, 1973-1974) used the 56-series 5-speed. A14 Five-speed models (GFK, 1976-1978) used the large 63-Series transmission. Differential1974-1975 models with A12 and A13 models used the Hitachi H145 differential. A14 models used the H150 differential, which was rated to cope with the extra torque. 1976-1978 models all used the H150, including A12 models. Brakes and SuspensionAll North American B210s used the large disk brakes from the <a href="http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=PB210" title="PB210" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(37, 82, 213); text-decoration: none; ">PB210 series, along with heavy-duty steering linkage from the Datsun 610. Early A12 models used front drum brakes and lightweight steering linkage. 76-78 A12 models used a lightweight disc brake with heavy duty steering linkage. Spring rates are nearly identical to Datsun 1200, even though the B210 was 20-25% heavier. This resulted in a noticeably smoother ride. More info HERE Edited August 1, 2010 by metalmonkey47 Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Parts interchange.. Strict Interchange Close interchange means the parts fit as-is without modification. Ashtray (rear): 4-dr is same as B110 Armrest Coat hanger and Assist strap (?) 1974 Room lamp (dome light) 1974 Muffler (has resonator!) 1974 USA Mirror (interior) Handbrake cover (new part is larger than original part) Almost all engine parts except block and fuel pump Fuel filter, Oil filter A12- and A13-powered versions rear axle assembly (see notes in Differential article) Front Seats. Use the B110 rails with the B210 seats Leaf spring parts (except main leaf) A12 models -- entire 56-series Transmission Rear brake shoes & drums Radiator (smaller models are strict interchange, larger ones fit with simple bracket extensions) Wheels, 12" as-is, 13" with tire change Tires (13" tires require corresponding 13" wheels)Front Seat belts are a three-point with retractor that bolts to the B-pillar. Just like B110 seat belts. The advantage is they are a superior single-belt design without a separate shoulder belt. [edit] Loose interchange Loose interchange is where the part fits -- but may work or look significantly different. Distributor (improved with internal condensor) Air cleaner Seat belt hook (can it be fitted to B110?) Steering wheel 2-spoke 391mm (B110 is 400mm) Rear brake shoes Rear Axle: 1974 complete H145 axle assembly fits B110Has improved, larger wheel bearings Larger axle tubes, so get all the U-bolts and fittings Improved oil control, with double-sealed bearings and anti-brake comtamination configuration ISO clamp system for quieter ride at low speeds [*]H145 diff center: 3.9 ratio same as B110[*]H145 Propeller Shaft, same as B110 (1974 model)[*]Throttle cable[*]56A 4-speed transmission with 2mm engine plate[*]60-series transmission 4-speed has strengthened gears and bearings and improved rear seal[*]Engine-to-transmission gusset (improves wikipedia:NVH)[*]Clutch (improved for quieter ride), pressure plate (higher pressure) and throwout bearing[*]Improved front engine mounts with roll-control 1974: softer A14 models: harder [*]Automatic Transmission[*]Strut Parts Strut bearing, oil sela, spring seat upper and dust cover (but not the top hat) Swaybar larger than B110 (17mm). 1974: 18 mm. [*]Rear Leaf spring leafs (except main leaf, which is longer)[*]Wheels are 12" (Australia) or 13" (USA) and fits B110[*]Rear wheel cylinder. 13/16 size same as B110 with front drums, but larger than B110 with font discs (11/16). [edit] No Interchange For details, see B210. Steering, Front suspension, and brakes: Many Datsun 610 parts fit B210 (USA models). These differ from B110 Engine crossmember (wider than B110) Diff U-bolts and mounting pads (wider) Rear Wheel bearings (larger) Lug nuts. B210 uses larger 13/16 size. B110 uses 3/4 size [edit] Swap Parts Modification is needed Console. Large size looks promising <a href="http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=63-Series_Transmission" title="63-Series Transmission" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(37, 82, 213); text-decoration: none; ">63-Series Transmission 5-speed from 1976-1978 models Clutch slave cylinder: 11/16 instead of 3/4 of B110 Strut swaps into B110, as complete with rotor and brake, if using some of the B210 lower suspension parts Coil spring (after cutting for length, B210 is longer). Virtually identical spring rate, so no advantage ??? Rearview Mirror Sun Visor Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 thank you for that info monkeyman well i bought it its a 4/78 b210 hatch back badged as a gx but has a 4 speed in it..will be picking it up tomorrow...sorry no pics the batts in the camera died when i got there Quote Link to comment
skunk Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 sorry no pics :hmm: Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 i just put fresh batts in camera and will have pics tomorrow Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 i just put fresh batts in camera and will have pics tomorrow I'm excited. lol Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 There was no B210 GTX. It is probably just GX. It does not have any extra performance over other B210s (the B110 GX was a powerhouse, but not the B210 GX). GX was a higher trim level for B210, so you got things like carpet and radio, thus heavier, thus less performance than the simple 2-door sedan. Quote Link to comment
skunk Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 i just put fresh batts in camera and will have pics tomorrow Ok. Its tomorrow now......... :poke: Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 have to wait till i get off work :mellow: Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 here are some pics for you sorry skunk i forgot to take a pic taking device with me today...i will be driving it home tuesday Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 here are some pics for you sorry skunk i forgot to take a pic taking device with me today...i will be driving it home tuesday :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: Quote Link to comment
fastdadd Posted August 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 its home and i have pics...but photobucket is been stupid and wont open Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 its home and i have pics...but photobucket is been stupid and wont open I'm having the same problem I thought it was just me, but I guess not. Quote Link to comment
skunk Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 blah blah blah blah, dont come back till you have pics :mellow: Quote Link to comment
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