Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Pulled the TC cover etc. off of one of my Z24s to replace the timing chain assembly. Was rattling like fuck on certain days when cold. Was OE with 170000km and the tensioner was only extended about 3/8 inch.....thought it would be worse. Was tying to find where the chain might be slapping against....nothing. Here nor there.....have a new assembly coming tomorrow. Anywho......I'm gonna shim the pump to increase the oil pressure a bit.....sooooo......I'm assuming I place a shim in the backside of the 'bolt' to shorten the spring length. Correct? If so....what size of washer......standard thickness? One washer? Mike? Drop the washer right in where my screwdriver is pointing? On another note.....looks like my water pump was trying to pass something... :poop: .? :D The impellers on the pump don't look too bad.. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Yeah slip something that fits down that hole. Small washer or slug and test the pressure on the gauge. Rev it up to over 2,500. You can slip a second on in with the pump on the vehicle and test again. Have a care the pump can easily put out enough to split the oil filter... I had that happen once, actually twice until I found a piece of casting jammed in the relief valve. I hadn't had the pump off or anything, just did an oil change. I thought it was a crappy crappy tire filter. Took it in and they gave me a gallon of oil to replace what I lost on the 401 and a new filter. Blew that on the way home from work so I knew it was serious. High volume pump right? . Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 That is a stock pump.......shall make it a high volume :cool: :cool: I'll start out with a standard sized shim/washer....don't need 2 much Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 That is a stock pump.......shall make it a high volume :cool: :cool: I'll start out with a standard sized shim/washer....don't need 2 much Keep in mind this won't raise the idle pressure so rev up to test. The high volume WILL raise the idle pressure. Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Keep in mind this won't raise the idle pressure so rev up to test. The high volume WILL raise the idle pressure. Poop.......idle pressure is a little low.....have good pressure above 2000 RPM Quote Link to comment
sick620 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Get a room you two :lol: Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 65+ lbs when cold......30ish when warm....at idle 55ish at 2000RPM+ when warm Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Get a room you two :lol: Actually.....we do have another 'room'....and you are not allowed :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Quote Link to comment
sick620 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 :blink: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crLIKf03u1I Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Somewhat facetious on my reply....... Just kidding..... Gilda Radner quote.... "Never mind" :D :D Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 :blink: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crLIKf03u1I That's rather funny..... :rofl: ...I just blew some beer back through my nose while laughing :D :huh: Quote Link to comment
sick620 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 ambiguously gay duo watch it! Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 SNL..... :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
sick620 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 i laugh every time i watch that. :lol: Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Well this didn't turn out to plan...... :blink: Put a shim in the pump...... got everything assembled.....flashed it up....runs good....but 10lb of oil pressure.....WTF. Pulled the shim..... no improvement. I'm pretty sure it's not the sender.....it's just not getting the oil. Not sure if this has anything to do with it.....but I had a blonde moment :) After I assembled everything I was going to drain the oil....but got sidetracked. Put 2 liters in it before I realized I didn't drain the oil....... So there was 6 liters plus a little water in it. Drained that and replaced with 4 fresh liters. The new filter was installed when there was 6 liters in it. Not knowing. Plan B Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Also....I didn't prime the oil pump....the oil had drained out when I shimmed it. I did turn the engine over a bit before I flashed it up. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Get a room you two :lol: Huh? Oh I get it now... Yeah slip something that fits down that hole. Must re read before hitting post key. ??? What's everyone looking at??? Quote Link to comment
datsunaholic Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 The pumps, particularly old ones, don't self prime very well. Gotta prefill them. Some electric gauges read 10lbs even when none exists, or just air pressure in the system. Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Actually I have no Plan B yet :unsure: Can't see anything abnormal before I put the TC cover back on.????? Beck Arnley TC kit.....Made in Japan.....160+ taxes....not too bad of a price. Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 The pumps, particularly old ones, don't self prime very well. Gotta prefill them. Some electric gauges read 10lbs even when none exists, or just air pressure in the system. Thanks..! Pulled the pump.....filled with oil.....added the shim. Good pressure now..........Much better than 10 lb... ^_^ Hopefully I didn't fuck anything up waiting for it to self prime.......low pressure and all. :D Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Naw. They'll run on wet bearings fine if you don't drive them. How much hp does it take to spin a crank and rods at idle anyway? Doug loosen that bottom chain guide and shove over to the right to remove as much slack as possible in the chain. This will prevent chain rattle on cold start up and hot idle when oil pressure is lowest. The tensioner will take care of the rest. Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Naw. They'll run on wet bearings fine if you don't drive them. How much hp does it take to spin a crank and rods at idle anyway? Doug loosen that bottom chain guide and shove over to the right to remove as much slack as possible in the chain. This will prevent chain rattle on cold start up and hot idle when oil pressure is lowest. The tensioner will take care of the rest. When I installed the new TC assembly I pivoted the the left chain guide to the right....taking up any 'leftover' slack. What is too much pressure....? When it's cold it's above 75lb at 2000 RPM. On another note.....had a lesson on oil filter quality the other day at the local auto parts store. The had cut 3 filters in half....to inspect the 'manufacture'. Now I see why everyone is slagging Fram........what a fucking joke. Not good at all. Mostly paper.....less pleats. Got one on my other truck....shall be replacing ASAP. Gonna assume that a filter cannot 'reflect' on engine oil pressure???? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Canadian Tire filters used to be made by Fram. Starting this year they are made somewhere in China. So doubly poor quality. Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Well....took the truck on it's first venture in about 8 years today......went to the big 'city'. Ran excellent......had the Fosgates cranked.....so I had a propensity to keep my eye on the temp and oil pressure a little too much. :unsure: No issues. A constant 55lbs all the way. Was going to drop some aluminum rims off to powder coat....80 bucks a pop including taxes. :huh: Not. Think I'll just polish them up instead. Had the tank topped up before I left. When I returned it cost 28 bucks @ 1.03 per liter to fill. Traveled 310 km . Hmmmmmmmmmm.....that works out to about 31.5 miles per gallon????????? 4x4 with 30x9.5s and Weber carb........... I'm gonna assume it wasn't topped up completely on the second fill.......shall fuel up tomorrow and recalculate Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Yeah, over 31. Seems too good to be true. Quote Link to comment
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