Rasp933 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Whats up ratsun I got a fried ignitor in my dizzy. I was wondering if I could use gm ignitor instead n save sum bucks? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Yes..... yes you can. Although it is an extremely rare event. I would do some checks first. Get a test lamp and check for power on the coil + terminal and the B terminal of the matchbox. Are the dizzy and coil connections good and firm? Most important is there a good ground between dizzy and the timing cover or block. Don't assume that just because it's bolted down that it's making good connection. All the power flowing through the coil has to get to ground through the dizzy case. A dedicated ground wire is good insurance and there is isually a ground lug on the dizzy side. Take cap off and crank motor ... does the rotor turn? Is there an air gap between stator and reluctor(s) Is the coil bad.. swap in a spare just to check. 1 Quote Link to comment
SHAMUS'WAGON Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 The degree if difficlty will be wether you have a matchbox or a remote trigger. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I don't think it will matter. The picture is for non matchbox type because it's common for the dizzy to be grabbed and the remote igniter forgotten which never happens on the matchbox type. The hook up will be the same for the matchbox type. My guess is that it isn't the EI dizzy . Quote Link to comment
laotsu Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 so why are we always worrying aboot baking them by having them turned towards the exhaust mani? Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Good infos .kool thanx Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 so why are we always worrying aboot baking them by having them turned towards the exhaust mani? . Exhaust gas temps can exceed 1,300F. They are not indestructible and the factory never mounted them facing the hot pipes either. . Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I swapped ign coil .caps rotor.wire.still no fire. Quote Link to comment
KlassicMotion Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Have you had a chance to test for ground at the distributor, or any of this? : Get a test lamp and check for power on the coil + terminal and the B terminal of the matchbox. Most important is there a good ground between dizzy and the timing cover or block? Take cap off and crank motor ... does the rotor turn? Is there an air gap between stator and reluctor(s) I'm just wondering, where is the ground wire from your battery hooked up to? And, do you have a secondary ground strap to the engine? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Also was it originally working? if so what happened as it stopped working? 1 Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Distrbutor is grounded to body. I took off the ignitor from the dist.oreilys auto t3sted the ignitor told me remove n replace.bad ignitor. Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 A new ignitor is like $175.complete dizzy is $129 So iam going to use gm one $21. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Yes..... yes you can. Although it is an extremely rare event. I would do some checks first. Get a test lamp and check for power on the coil + terminal and the B terminal of the matchbox. Are the dizzy and coil connections good and firm? Most important is there a good ground between dizzy and the timing cover or block. Don't assume that just because it's bolted down that it's making good connection. All the power flowing through the coil has to get to ground through the dizzy case. A dedicated ground wire is good insurance and there is isually a ground lug on the dizzy side. Take cap off and crank motor ... does the rotor turn? Is there an air gap between stator and reluctor(s) Is the coil bad.. swap in a spare just to check. Did you do any of the above to prove that the module is bad????????????????????????????????????????????? What the hell does some counter monkey know????????? All they know is replace stuff until it's fixed. The module is 10 years older than him and knows way more. As I said they rarely go bad so go through the checks. Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I try to figure it out .today.i post the results later Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 With new gm ignitor .still no spark.iam guessing .a bad ignition pickup? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Why not just replace the whole motor? Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Haha I am thinkin of getting a new car Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 A Civic. Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 May b subaru Quote Link to comment
KlassicMotion Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 With new gm ignitor .still no spark.iam guessing .a bad ignition pickup? You need to follow Mike's advice and go down his checklist. His checklist was to help you solve your problem and to save you money from just replacing good parts. But if that doesn't work, you can't go wrong with a Subaru! Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Iam just kiddin lol Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 I have power to the coil .I already took out the ignition pickup coil .it looks bad. Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Just waiting on the new one for now.5 day shipping period :-( Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Whats up ratsun I got a fried ignitor in my dizzy. I was wondering if I could use gm ignitor instead n save sum bucks? I swapped ign coil .caps rotor.wire.still no fire. A new ignitor is like $175.complete dizzy is $129 So iam going to use gm one $21. With new gm ignitor .still no spark.iam guessing .a bad ignition pickup? I have power to the coil .I already took out the ignition pickup coil .it looks bad. . Well I'm sure that when you've replaced everything it might work. Quote Link to comment
Rasp933 Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hopefully .cant wait.to hear that l20 sound Quote Link to comment
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