Datsdat Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Thought I'd hit a freakin IED but turned out to be just as unlikely. Now I have just the mangled remains of wires that formerly went to matchbook e.i. module, coil, temp. sender and choke heater and a few more I cannot identify. The cut wiring branches off the larger bundle that runs along the top of radiator and then shoots straight back to the distributor and carb. I count six severed wires and can't find a diagram that jives with the color coding. Engine is L20B, I need at least the color coding of the two wire T connector to the ign. module, plus wires that went to ignition coil, choke heater and temp sender. Diagrams found so far don't match. I know there was also a ground wire to the module that I need the color of. Any help would be forever appreciated, this truck had never stopped before in 40 years and I don't want to junk it just for a damn freak accident. It would be easy to splice everything back together if I just knew the color coding. Thanks for any and all help. Please, all I need is someone with an 80 720 with L20 to look at those wires and let me know the color codes Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 It's just some wires and possibly this has also blown a fuse, nothing to worry about. It's totally fixable. I'll look this up and some wiring diagrams in the morning for you. Again don't worry I had the same wires on my 521 wrap around the fan pulley and rip them off out in the woods and I fixed it and drove home. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 To the back of the carburetor: Blue/Red stripe becoming Blue for the auto choke heater Brown becoming Red at carburetor for the idle cut solenoid Yellow/Black for the water temperature sender on the thermostat housing Distributor Brown/Red to distributor module (matchbox) White* power from ignition to matchbox module (and coil+ see below) Coil Black/Red to coil positive (-) terminal from module White* to coil negative (+) terminal from ignition switch. Quote Link to comment
Datsdat Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Cheers Mike, and thank you for the extremely helpful info. I need clarification on the single larger gauge white wire. If is a hot wire from the ignition switch, why would it not go to coil positive? I had a single white wire, same gauge attached to ignition positive which wasn't cut. I thought one would be ignition feed start and the other ignition feed run. What am I missing here in my logic? Could you please elaborate? Thanks much Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 5:54 AM, datzenmike said: To the back of the carburetor: Blue/Red stripe becoming Blue for the auto choke heater Brown becoming Red at carburetor for the idle cut solenoid Yellow/Black for the water temperature sender on the thermostat housing Distributor Brown/Red to distributor module (matchbox) White* power from ignition to matchbox module (and coil+ see below) Coil Black/Red to coil positive (-) terminal from module White* to coil negative (+) terminal from ignition switch. Wow I really got that wrong. Here is the corrected wiring. White powers the ignition module (matchbox) and also the + side of the coil. Check carefully I changed more than one thing. Quote Link to comment
Datsdat Posted February 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 Hi Mike, I have a black and red wire that I can connect to the ignition module but before I do I checked it and with the ignition switch in on position and I'm reading around 5 volts at that wire. I peeled more insulation back and the black and red is spliced to a black and yellow. Is that normal or should I just fabricate a new wire direct from the coil negative to the module? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 The Black/Red wire on the module should go to the coil negative terminal. It also goes to the tachometer so maybe... ? The White wire should have 12 battery when in the ignition on position and also go to the coil Positive terminal. What you are reading is some of the 12v on the positive terminal flowing through the coil resistance to the Black/Red wire on the negative terminal. To prove this disconnect the positive coil wire and it should stop. If it does this is normal and connect it back up. Quote Link to comment
Datsdat Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Got engine running but clutch goes to floor. Problem is all replacement slaves have bleeder screw below input line when mounted unlike the current slave. Why would this be, is the 80 720 different than other 720's or what the deuce is going on? Current slave is unmarked so I don't know where to find another. Slave is on passenger side and push rod faces rearward when mounted. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Bleeder should be on the end of the slave, not to the side, and above the hose. What's wrong with the slave you have? What happens when you bleed it??? Quote Link to comment
Datsdat Posted February 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 At present the pedal goes to floor without moving the release lever after bleeding all air out. I am replacing master and slave just to be sure but like I said, all pictures of replacement slaves with bleeder on the end show the bleeder screw at the bottom when mounted on right like my original standard Datsun 5 speed. It's like they are all meant to mounted on the driver side. The one currently on the truck has bleeder on top when mounted on passenger side but none for sale appear to match the one I have. I've looked at dozens of brands pictured. They all would have the bleed screw at the bottom when mounted on the right side of the tranny. What's weird is that the 4WD slaves have bleed screw on top when mounted on passenger side but would not clear the torsion bar. I might end up having to rebuild the slave I have if I can't match it and that sucks. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 All truck slaves have the bleeder in the end to clear the torsion bar. Swap the bleeder and the flex hose around so bleeder is at top? Quote Link to comment
Datsdat Posted February 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Thought about that already and the bleeder screw bore has a smooth tapered seat while the hydraulic line bore has a copper insert at bottom of bore. Went ahead and ordered a rebuild kit for my slave, Quote Link to comment
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