NeverFinished

At risk of a repeat, this ad is now 21 days old; so ask for a lower price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5256075606.html 71 510 4-door, previous race car, needs brake/light check to get registered, L16 (not mine)

Posted three hours ago in Sacramento: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5287911032.html 71 510 4-door rebuilt A15... see ad (not mine!) on lien sale, owner knows nothing about it.

73 240Z Full body kit convertible with Chevy 350. $2400 At that price, I wouldn't even expect it to run. (who knows, maybe fraud or something seriously wrong with it - NOT MINE) popped up on an old automatic search http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1973-Datsun-240Z-1530751.xhtml;jsessionid=58808F2CA8FA4E63732862273429BD71?conversationId=44779

1979 Datsun 810 $1800 (posted 8 hours ago) 66K miles (looks really clean and original) - posting it in case someone wants a "pre-Maxima" in their collection runs if gas is put in the intake... so has some fueling problem. Must be towed. http://ventura.craigslist.org/cto/4255484427.html per: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun_810 This would have the L24E engine with 125hp, still classified as subcompact in that year

71 510 2 door (4 hour old ad, but I think I recognize the car from an earlier ad) http://modesto.craigslist.org/cto/4255742539.html says it doesn't run "just a carb adjustment or something" but "everything new under the hood" Something odd about that. No technical specs when everything is new? "No lowballers. No i wont take 2 thousand. No tirekickers Or window shoppers the value of 510s is only going up"

1980 Pro Street/Drag 280 ZX - in Nevada $4500 (long list of parts and pictures) Not sure if this has come up before, but ad is only 5 hours old at the moment. (Time Stamp on one photo shows 2006, and others have that area scratched out - either signature or date codes... worth asking why) Maybe it has sat, but sounds like it comes with everything for solid mount SBC, comes with old school Corvette engine, said it could be used with "stock" engine also. Caged, tubbed, Ford 9" rear. Not quite what I'm looking for (and 5 years too new for CA, because it would have to pass smog to be registered) but certainly got my attention. http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/4255659853.html (not mine, I've never seen it)

1968 Datsun 2000 Roadster - selling due to illness $1K obviously needs restoration; so would you call this a "barn find?" (no photos) http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/4254868720.html (posted 11 hours ago)

I had a lot of contact with the seller and the fabricator, some time back. They do $50K+ builds that end up in magazines, so the quality is excellent. However, it will take another $10K in fabrication to finish it, minimum, because it isn't that far along and has sat many years; though if you weld, you can finish it yourself as a project, as all the hardest parts are done. Intent was a 2JZ-GTE track car, then a partner backed out, expensive parts went elsewhere, car sat a long time, health issues came up, etc. This would be a great car to finish if you can do your own welding work, and want a JZ-series, perhaps UZ-series, Toyota engine (many engines to choose from to use the mounts already included, but very little additional work if you want to switch it to another engine) I'd love to see this thing get finished. I gave that car serious consideration early in the year, and the owner and fabrication shop are totally good guys. But in the end, it is just too expensive a project for me since I do not weld, particularly because there's just so much left to be done. However, that which has been finished is all top-notch. As I understand it, you need not be a top-notch welder to finish it because the hardest parts are already done correctly, but there is just a huge amount left to finish it. (I forwarded this car to this thread back around January when I decided not to buy it, but figured it to be an honest deal) [not mine, no affiliation, never met the guy in person, etc - contact the seller, not me]

Yeah, that was us. He gets more attention than I'd like, but you noticed how he was able to chill out in the corner beside me without bothering anyone? That takes serious training. When I said giant, I wasn't kidding, was I? Thanks for the link on instructions on how to host my photos. It will take me days to sort and post pictures of my 240Z restoration that was "NeverFinished", not sure if previous cars are worth posting here since they were mostly Toyota and Honda and back in 'film' photography days I never took many pictures.

Flatcat, What does that have to do with engine mounts?

How much could I get for a running R16 engine from a factory 411 SSS , complete with intake, exhaust, transmission, maybe driveshaft? If sufficient, then I can buy this 411 wagon as the basis for my crazy project. Likewise, how much is the suspension worth, if I were to sell that off this car, too?

Hi Mike, You are correct, of course. This Roadster's mounts should be on it's ladder frame. If swapping this Roadster's front suspension to a Miata subframe (completely welded like Bob's MX520) the engine would effectively be "moved" further back in relation to the car's front/back weight bias. Any chance removing the passenger seat would allow the Roadster to fit a dog that sits 4.5' from rump to toes on the passenger side? He'd also be inclined sit sit up and watch out the front windshield. That would mean I can use the car without modification. A removable hardtop rather than clothtop would be really appropriate here, and I guess they cost $1K aftermarket. (One company's product for Suzuki Samurai does) The 411 has a really narrow engine bay, but would still have frame rails (welded to the unibody to under the seats), so truck-like motor mounts can be fabricated to hold a narrow engine (SR20DE RWD, L18?, or QR25DE RWD). If converting a 411 to a Miata subframe in front farther forward, the original wheelwells would disappear giving a wide engine bay. Having read all through Bob's two builds, the 411 could have been constructed with the Miata front frame-rails welded all the way under the 411 original floor, perhaps with some sections of Miata floor remaining as doubler plates. That would have allowed the Miata frame-rails to be moved to an appropriate location to have the front wheels all the way to the front of the car, with Miata inner fenderwells to where they met the 411 width. Of course, I know I'm only speculating, as it requires actual measurements. So please forgive me for making a hypothetic statement. (I'd likely use a Datsun engine in such a 411 project)

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/4048820894.html I'm interested in the car, so why is it not worth the $2K? (Seriously, I need to know) It is all factory, the upgraded suspension is factory, the R16 SSS engine is factory, someone was going to pull the engine and stopped part way six months ago because he couldn't reach, so some assembly is required, and I'd need to get it shipped home rather than fix it there and drive it a long haul. Needs an alternator and battery, apparently the alternator is not available anywhere (no surprise) so I'd be inclined to just do a motor swap right off. Engine bay is tiny, the exhaust actually goes out the fenderwell. So, how much is this car really worth? Supposedly, I can sell the engine (R16 SSS motor, for US only) for nearly as much as the car (since they are so rare). Basically a primer car, with some home-done paint, ran until the alternator crapped out, and supposedly can show it running with a test battery. Needs front seat. Not much rust. I'm really far from this car, so maybe someone would like to check it out on my behalf? I've made no commitment, but belongs to a young guy who bought it from a friend, who bought it from another, and that from the original owner. (passed between friends, not all over the place). Respond here, but maybe it is more appropriate to PM me?

K_trip: That's really nice of you to bring this car to my attention. Thank you. That is a perfect solution except for my peculiar requirement: having a car that holds my giant (6'6" long, 4'6' from butt to toes laying down) dog and I. I must have interior room. Has anyone ever trimmed out the trunk and partition and added material to have a roadster look more like a wagon/hatchback? I have a really nice photo mockup (from a professional studio) showing the pictures of a future potential Miata wagon which would be a good template for what I have in mind, but I still don't know how to post photos on this forum. Wait, here's a link to it: http://www.sketchfarm.com/transportation/mazda/final-model.html I could see how unstable that Roadster would be the way it is, but a Miata front suspension moved forward so the tires are up to the grill, and rear wheels with offset to match the wider Miata track, would make that handle quite nicely, I think. The frame might need additional reinforcement. I could even keep the Chevy Small Block, but an aluminum V6 would be a better choice. My cost of completing that car might be minimal, though I don't know what it costs now (as I can't find the ad). That 411SSS 'goon for $2K that you posted two hours ago is more my style only because of body size, though obviously not the same class of performance. The suspension upgrade it has might make it handle adequately. Drive it a while and decide it's upgrade path. Thanks, and please let me know how to find that Roadster. I like it. PS. I'm not "in love with" the Miata suspension, it just happens to be the most self contained design, most readily adapted to other cars of similar weight, and wins autocross.

That covers the original question, thanks! Are the 620 and 720 mounts welded or bolted to the frame? Are the frame rails the same distance apart as a 520 pickup? I am waiting for a call back from the CA BAR Referee about CA smog exemption, and trying to get my facts straight before the call. Looks like fabrication will be easier based on a truck (most likely have to use a 1967 model or older)