well actually i purchased a new alternator along with new cables for the battery, starter and deloomed the electrical tape to look for anything. i also went ahead and changed all the dashboard light bulbs and glass fuses. i ended up getting the car to run but now the charge light stays on and the car cuts off randomly im still going at this i wasn't really asking for help just stated how much of a pita it is. :) the battery/alternator wires have been messed with im currently looking on the forum for a wiring diagram the one thats pinned in electrical for a 78 pickup doesn't work just gotta keep looking i know its here.