The stock torque is spot on for the bore and stroke + displacement. If you look at the Honda K20A2 it makes the same or slightly less torque. These SR20VE's aren't for everybody. If you want to do an NA SR20 swap they are a great alternative. Or even a turbo setup. The VE head would raise your compression slightly since it has less CC volume. If you want to make more than average power NA or turbo with an SR swap this is the way to go. Way better breathing plus more detonation resistant than the SR20 head, stock vs. stock.