Smoking Joe Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 I need help in locating new motor mounts for my 85 720. I have ordered two different sets that were supposed to be for my truck. The first set was not even close. The second set is close But are not the same. the stud that Mounts to the engine bracket is higher than the centerline of the original. They also stand approximately .160 thousands higher/taller than the originals. further the locator pin on the engine side is slightly off and will not fit into the original engine bracket. also the locator pin on the frame side is larger diameter and will not fit into the frame in the passenger side. again these are very close but just enough difference that if I were to make them fit I’m afraid the engine would sit to high in the truck. hopefully some ones can provide a place to order the correct ones I need. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 I've never heard of after market MMs fitting correctly, hell the original ones are often a bitch to get right when installing the engine after having it out. Quote Link to comment
Smoking Joe Posted June 3 Author Report Share Posted June 3 I’m sure you are correct. I would use the original except for one of them is broken and I’m sure the other one Likly sagged from the years of weight and heat that they are subjected to. I will ask you opinion on installation of the engine. Would you recommend installing the engine and then the transmission or installing them as a unit Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 Six of one half dozen of the other. If you have lots of overhead room and a chain hoist and use an adjustable level to get the transmission steeply tilted down enough, you can put back in together. If doing separately, put the transmission in first without the engine in the way and support it in place then mate the engine to it. Quote Link to comment
NC85ST Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 Did you take both of them out as one unit? It’s a lot easier to mate the engine to the transmission while they’re both on the floor. Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 22 hours ago, Smoking Joe said: I need help in locating new motor mounts for my 85 720. I have ordered two different sets that were supposed to be for my truck. The first set was not even close. The second set is close But are not the same. the stud that Mounts to the engine bracket is higher than the centerline of the original. They also stand approximately .160 thousands higher/taller than the originals. further the locator pin on the engine side is slightly off and will not fit into the original engine bracket. also the locator pin on the frame side is larger diameter and will not fit into the frame in the passenger side. again these are very close but just enough difference that if I were to make them fit I’m afraid the engine would sit to high in the truck. hopefully some ones can provide a place to order the correct ones I need. The bottom photo is your original mounts? Quote Link to comment
Smoking Joe Posted June 4 Author Report Share Posted June 4 15 hours ago, wayno said: The bottom photo is your original mounts? Both Photos are of a new and old mount for comparison. Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 OK, I understand, they appear to be close, old MM may settle and be shorter than new MM, just do what you have to do to install them, I have forced 620 MMs to work on a 521, and it was not easy, if a hole is not quite big enough I would make the hole slightly bigger, but I would not change the frame, only mod the motor mounts. You started another thread also, I do not fix what is not broke, there is a point when if you have enough vehicles of the same type, you may have an extra for parts. Quote Link to comment
Doomedwalker Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 i just got mine from rockauto... Quote Link to comment
ElliotV Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 1 hour ago, Doomedwalker said: i just got mine from rockauto... Which brand did you buy and did they actually fit? The motor mounts have been a big issue on these trucks. Quote Link to comment
Smoking Joe Posted June 8 Author Report Share Posted June 8 I purchased mine via Summit, I don't recall the brand but I will check and report back. They did not fit but with minor modification I can and will be using them. I will get some pictures and details of what was required to make them fit and post that information for anyone that is curious. 2 Quote Link to comment
Doomedwalker Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 2 hours ago, ElliotV said: Which brand did you buy and did they actually fit? The motor mounts have been a big issue on these trucks. i got Westar, i just 2 of the same one but i did have to shave the pin off one maybe the ones listed for left and right will be a better choice for you? 1 Quote Link to comment
ElliotV Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 If you only had to shave one pin off that's a good deal I think 1 Quote Link to comment
Smoking Joe Posted June 9 Author Report Share Posted June 9 (edited) Elliot on my truck the left and right are the same/interchangeable. However with the new ones I had to shave the locator pin off on the engine side of the mount and increase the receiver hole in the frame due to larger pin diameter on the frame side of the mounts. The original mounts had a roughly a 1/4 inch diameter locator pin whereas the new ones have roughly a 5/16 diameter pin. So basically not a big deal to make the new ones work. Marmon Ride Control Products is the brand I purchased. Edited June 9 by Smoking Joe 1 Quote Link to comment
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