510 steering center link - New, Made in Japan 555 $20

[obrut]

I bought one of these for my 72 510 https://www.ebay.com/itm/380328219994

It says its for the later 510s but judging from the pictures it looks like the right one.  I got it and and compared it to the one on my car and it is the same but is about 1/2" shorter in the overall length.  It does say made in Japan and 555 on it.  Is his listing wrong or is there something I'm missing?  If its the right one then it seems like a really good deal.

[banzai510(hainz)]

if its shorter then its not the same. Just my opimion here

[iceman510]

Misleading statement in the explanation.  Appears it fits the A10 (later 510) where they say the 1974-on PL510, which is not accurate.   H6200 would not usually be a PL510 number series unless superseded later.

 

 

[datzenmike]

48560-21400 21401 and U2000 are PL510 and 610

 

48560-H6200 is for the B210 and S10

 

48560-W5725 is for the A10 HL510 and the 210

 

 

[obrut]

Trying to post a pic but "add files" does nothing

 

edit - I think I got it to work, here it is mounted in the car

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by obrut

[iceman510]

Picture not working, at least for me.

[datzenmike]

[edekalil]

You may have to compress the oic size

[thisismatt]

Naw, he tried to link a webmail attachment...not going to work 

[toylet]

They are still availiable let me know if you need one

 

[DARIN 510]

Yah I bought the same one too a couple years ago 🤦‍♂️. I think it’s for a B210 and 1200. The A10 has a different set up. It would work for a PL510 if it was an inch wider. 

[obrut]

sorry about that, I was trying to attach one on my phone and it wouldn't work.

[iceman510]

You have installed it, but if it's shorter it changes the sweep of the steering box.  Also your tie rods assemblies will need to be longer. Not sure how this would affect on-center feel of the steering if the gear box and idler arm are not pointed straight ahead at static position.

[datzenmike]

If shorter then the pitman and the idler arm are turned in towards each other slightly. If turning right the left wheel will turn faster and further than the idler arm side wheel. If left the opposite would be true. Ive adjusted the steering toe in and even the slightest adjustment makes huge differences in the steering on the road. Only time the steering would be normal is straight ahead.

 

You could shim the steering box and the idler arm away from the sides of the frame to get them both parallel to each other.

[Stoffregen Motorsports]

Bump steer is controlled by the length of the tie rod vs the length of the control arm. If the tie rod is longer than the control arm, you are going to get bump steer. Toe out in this case. Might be worth while to take a few measurements to see if your toe changes during the suspension cycle. Easy enough to do without the springs on place.

[thisismatt]

I agree with you guys, it can affect a lot of things, but I wonder if 1/4" per side will really matter (as in, did Nissan really do a thorough job to begin with on steering geometry?!).

[Stoffregen Motorsports]

Well, as Fred Jones would say, there's one way to find out.

 

Measure it.

 

https://y.yarn.co/bf6a5feb-0d66-41a7-916f-a856f7de3ada.mp4

[obrut]

If I can get in the attic tonight I'll get my stock one down and double check the lengths again. I wasn't thinking about the length being the fit issue. I thought the angle of the tie rods to the steering box ball joint or the tapper or hole size.

Edited February 6, 2023 by obrut

[obrut]

The measurements from center to center on the pitman/steering arm are 21.5" on the new and 22" on the old.

 

 

On the tie rods center to center, 18" on the new and 18.5" on the old.

 

 

[obrut]

 

[datzenmike]

1/2 inch looks worse than thinking about it.

[KELMO]

This now has me wondering if I compared my old to new and I really don't remember.

Guess I'll be investigating that in the near future.

[Stoffregen Motorsports]

Again, I'd remove the springs and cycle suspension. You might be scared when you see what the numbers are.

[obrut]

Can the ball joint be pressed out of the center link?

[Stoffregen Motorsports]

Nope.

 

I'm sure someone can do it, but the caps are crimped on. I've taken them apart before and welded the caps on, but that was an emergency trail fix.