Justin Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 HID lights suck.... Our (human, warm-blooded, "mammal") eyes can not properly process the unnatural types of light we use. Neon, Xenon, all that "cheap bright" GLITTER-FLASH doesn't exist on the natural, given spectrum. Not too mention, this is all brand spankin' NEW technology (but let's be frank; it's non-human, "alien" technology,) and we have no CLUE what the long-term effects may be... (my money's on "EARLY ONSET OF BLINDNESS IN MAMMALS SUBJECTED TO OVER-EXPOSURE") How long "over-exposure" is may be subjective... I saw "converting your headlights" in an unlocked tech-thread and I was SECONDS away from being THE BIGGEST TROLL I COULD BE.... But then I was like "Nah, this is America," (or, I mean, ya know; if you Canadians will please forgive my BROAD use of the term "America",) And we can FUCK our LIVES up how we WANT to, And if I don't like that ish I'll just keep my OLD-FEELING ASS HOME at night So....? Why even say "Dude, those super-bright lights are probably bad for you,"....? BATMAN. (stay with me here, I'm referencing an example:) In the first season of the original "Batman: the animated series" there is an episode where a man kidnaps orphans and forces them to live illegally with him in his secret, underground, drainage-ditch, squatted-on, "sewer" lair FULL of crocodiles. The SHOWN method of punishment in this dystopia? a small room illuminated with only the "old school" fluorescent tube lights (you know the ones that flicker when they are about to expire) And that was it! The punishment! being alone, in the too-bright-lit lonely room. Just sticking you in a room with those terrible lights was punishment enough at one time. Now we happily subject each other to the unknown consequences of this light spectrum EVERY EVENING.... Bro, too fucking much. None of you care or believe me. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 HIDs are fine. Mine are 6,000k which is basically the same as sunlight 5,780k, which our eyes are adapted to see properly in. All colors are proper if looked at in light this temperature. Some idiots get 8k and 10k lamps that are blue/purplish. They look cool but actually you see less in that spectrum. I've noticed that trees and grass appear greener under 6k light compared to halogen lamps. As you go below 6k your eyes see less too. Fluorescent lamps are far below this although I did work on a printing press and the colors had to be viewed under special sunlight fluorescent 6k lighting. Halogen head lights are 3k to 3,200k. Almost yellow in comparison Improperly aimed HIDs or reflector housings that are converted to HIDs are very bright (because intended for projector lenses with a beam cut off) and that's the same as looking directly into the sun. Driving in conditions where you have to use low beam halogen lamps you can barely drive 20 mph and expect to see far enough ahead to get stopped in time. This is called outrunning your headlights. High beams are only slightly better. My projector HIDs see over a block clearly with the beam cut off about 2 1/2 feet high so not in oncoming driver's eyes. I have HID high beams with no cut off and they easily see a half mile ahead. They are so bright that if you use them for a short while then dim them it's like you shut you headlights off. Takes a while for your eyes to adjust. 1 Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 I'm tired of being blinded by those newer LEDs,+ a lot of the newer vehicles have very bright low beams.On top of that,many of the drivers just have to run their driving lights ALL of the time - even in the daytime.Jeep drivers seem to be the worst ones. I've driven with Cibie driving lights for years,but would turn them off when there was oncoming traffic. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Agree. The worst are reflector housings intended for weaker filament bulbs that are converted to HID and are 4-5 times brighter spewing light everywhere. It's like they have high beams on. There is virtually no cut off on them. 1 Quote Link to comment
Ooph! Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 My eye's are aged well all of me is, I find it hard to see against traffic with those lights on 2 lane roads. I found using a yellow polarized night driving lens over my glasses helps a lot especially when the opposing lights are not aimed well or coming over a hill. It seems to diminish the brightness coming towards me more than it dims my own headlights. 3 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 I just installed an LED light bar on my truck! It is sooooo dark around here, especially when it's raining. The brighter headlights weren't enough, but I do only run the LED on my private road, once I get off the main roads. LEDs bother me too, but as another tool in the toolbox, they are handy when low light calls for them. I should say lifted truck owners bother me, with all their lights on, always. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 They're compensating for some lack. 2 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) They are compulsive box checkers. Bold colors to draw our attention - check Huge, ugly wheels with too much negative offset - check Aggressive rubber band tires to fit those too big wheels - check Heavy winch bumpers even though they will never see the dirt - check Roof rack to hold shovels and high lift jacks that will never be removed much less used - check Window tint so we can't see them driving around in their jammies - check Chrome exhaust tip, because chrome exhaust tip - check Light bars, light bars, light bars - check Racing harness seat belts or at least branded pads for the shoulder belt - check LOUD interior upholstery - check Oh yeah, too much stereo - check Edited March 19, 2021 by Stoffregen Motorsports 2 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Don't forget the bull balls swinging 1 2 Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Or the trailer ball receiver that has to be dropped WAAAAY down to compensate for the lifted suspension. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 These fucking deer decals..... ..... check!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
Str8jacket Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 We have the outback version. A 6 post bull bar that resembles a CAT D8 dozer blade with a stick rake on it, CAT mudflats, wrangler bullhorns sticker full rear windscreen and if they are really committed they punch a hole through the centre of the roof for the roo shooting spot light to go through. 1 Quote Link to comment
Ooph! Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 You guy's missed my favorite pickup mod 3 Quote Link to comment
bilzbobaggins Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Can someone explain the reverse rake look on a lifted vehicle? 1 1 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 These new headlights suck for anybody driving towards them.It's supposed to be about safety yet they blind oncoming traffic.Kind of defeats the purpose.How did we all make it this far without extremely bright lighting all these years ? We're all lucky we weren't killed by darkness while driving at night. 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Ooph! said: You guy's missed my favorite pickup mod Except his dick id obviously larger than the average. Wait till you see one with pipes that are 8" diameter!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, john510 said: These new headlights suck for anybody driving towards them.It's supposed to be about safety yet they blind oncoming traffic.Kind of defeats the purpose.How did we all make it this far without extremely bright lighting all these years ? We're all lucky we weren't killed by darkness while driving at night. Again, these could be older reflector lamps designed for filament bulbs converted to HID that spray light everywhere indiscriminately. Also HID projectors are aimed with a horizontal 'fence' that cut's off light above the horizontal. Coming over a rise and bumps can place you lower or bounce the beam higher as you approach them. On a horizontal road as you get closer you are higher and higher in the shadow zone. I hear you on the blinding brightness though. If you haven't, try driving an HID set up and I think you will agree that the effect is like driving with better than high beams when on low beams with everything above horizontal in darkness. If you are a confident and competent night driver you'll be even more impressed in how much more you can see down the road in the dark. 1 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 hours ago, bilzbobaggins said: Can someone explain the reverse rake look on a lifted vehicle? Mimics the cowboy position as they squat over their boyfriend. 2 Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 12 hours ago, datzenmike said: These fucking deer decals..... ..... check!!!! That's the Browning company's trade mark. Sometimes called Buck mark. 2 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 You guys forgot the yoga chick that will be driving it. And posting almost naked pics sitting atop her Jeep twice a day on IG. The reverse rake comes from desert racing, and it somehow transferred over to big 4x4s, which would never work well sitting like that. My friend Harry did a series of what-not-to-do magazine features for the magazine he works for. They usually start the series around SEMA time and the series is loaded with poorly built 4x4 show trucks. Some of them are so bad that they can't even drive because the driveshafts will bind and break a u-joint. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 In the mid 60s it was common to raise the fronts of cars to copy drag racers. Raising the fronts caused huge weight transfer to the rear tires for tracion. On actual race cars usually a van or 2wd truck beam axle was used. On street cars crazy stuff was done including driving 2x4s into the front coil springs and turning the torsion bars up on Dodges. Naturally they were a death trap handling wise. 2 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I never did like the gasser look. Not completely. Except the Two Lane Blacktop '55 Chevy, and a similar '55 that David Freiburger built a couple years ago. Those I could see in my garage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
bilzbobaggins Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Its all over town here. I honestly do not know how they can see forward. Most of them have the seats reclined waaaaaaay back. And the lighted wheel thing is back. 1 Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 14 hours ago, bilzbobaggins said: Can someone explain the reverse rake look on a lifted vehicle? It's called the Carolina Squat here in the South. Try Googling it,you'll get a laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment
bilzbobaggins Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, angliagt said: It's called the Carolina Squat here in the South. Try Googling it,you'll get a laugh. Thats it. I laughed and puked in my mouth. 2 Quote Link to comment
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