witchespellmichelle Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Almost a month ago, after getting rid of my SRT8, I had been looking for an additional car (a car to commute with) every day. but i luv something fun, so it had to catch my attention. I seen this 1980 Datsun 210 at a used car dealership, but i wasn't there for the Datsun...i was there for a 1965 dodge dart. with 1350 in cash, i test drove the dodge dart...and it wasn't a pleasant experience. The brakes were sloppy, it was over-heating, had exhaust leaks, there weren't any lights, no electrical in the dash, it pulled on the steering and there was A LOT of play in the wheel...it was not what i expected. come to feel that this was a much bigger project than i wanted, but it was sure cute. So i had asked the guy there about the Datsun that i had been keeping an eye on. he grabbed a battery starter thing, but it didn't need it. it fired right up. I took it for a test drive. everything felt awesome...like a glove...i knew that i was happy with this. i was getting really excited, so...i bought it, while my family shook their heads lol! (as always). It's a 1980 Datsun 210 Automatic with 139,000 original miles on it. It has the round headlights and the smaller taillights. it's all original...with original glass and windshield and i love it! white exterior, blue interior...with lots of rust! No keys fit/work the doors, no windows roll down, I have to open the drivers door only from the outside...it's quite comical. i think it's funny that it takes me forever to get up to 65mph with the super skinny tires. I want this thing to run right, before i make it all super adorbs n cute (first time for that). I installed a new Gates belt, NGK wire set, and NGK plugs on it...it started to run even better. i filled it up with gas and drove it to work. i noticed that i was able to get up to 70mph on the flat highway, but i started to smell fuel...like bad. Once i got there...everyone loved it, but one of the guys said that i have fuel dripping onto the ground from the fuel tank. I drove it home (leaking) of course...it's fiiiiine...and it stunk up the garage, then the house. so i parked it outside, and accidentally broke off my one and only mirror on the drivers side of the car (that would be me) when backing up. but i have to find out where the leak is coming from. it smells like it's leaking inside the trunk or into the car...i don't see dripping anymore. i think a seal? or leaky hose? ugh! time to take out seats/shit in the trunk. i have 2 spare tires lol and 2 cans of fix-a-flat BONUS! anywho...the girls in the office were giggling at the 'D' in the grill...so i have to get a disney decal that says "i love the 'D'" lol! so they have named it for me as; Vitamin D. here's the dealer website of pics n shit...i don't have any yet...but i'm sure happy and excited to be here and to have this car https://horizonllceverett.com/vdp/16185253/Used-1980-Datsun-280ZX-for-sale-in-Everett-WA-98204 -Bella 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, witchespellmichelle said: I installed a new NGK wire set, and NGK plugs on it...it started to run even better. -Bella Excellent. Good going. Look under the car for the leak. I think the tank is in front of the rear bumper to the right side of the spare tire well and under it with all the fuel lines outside the cabin. Fix this fast. 1 Quote Link to comment
Trophy24 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 A PNW car! Welcome to the group. Lots of help available here for those who ask good questions. 1 Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/1/2020 at 12:16 PM, datzenmike said: Look under the car for the leak. I think the tank is in front of the rear bumper to the right side of the spare tire well and under it with all the fuel lines outside the cabin. Fix this fast. Thank you so much for this! it helped me out so much! On Sunday, I opened the trunk and took off the covers to the fuel tank. I didn't see any leaking, which is very frustrating. The hoses didn't look too bad, they weren't wet, but i can definitely see the fuel dripping underneath the car. It's almost as if there were a rust hole in the actual fuel tank. I think it would have to be dropped to see it better. Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 you should check the fuel lines that go from the tank to the hardlines, somewhere between the tank and the axle. it should be passengerside area behind the rear axle 1 1 Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 20 hours ago, 80datson said: you should check the fuel lines that go from the tank to the hardlines, somewhere between the tank and the axle. it should be passengerside area behind the rear axle Thank you so much! I will check there when i get home. I had my step-father take a look at it...he thinks it's a split in the tank. it's leaking from the top, of the tank but in the very back...like right behind the rear bumper. The trunk is all rusted out...i can see the gas tank through where the spare tire was sitting. I think i'm going to drop the tank...clean off all that rust, repair the crack, paint it and have someone weld a plate over where the spare tire was. then i can put the tank back up. I started the car yesterday and it's almost empty, so should be a little easier when it's empty to lower it. I also watched (2) YouTube videos...so i'm pretty much qualified 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 The tank is made from two parts with a seam weld all around the middle forming a small ledge that collects dirt that remains wet and can cause rust out. If you remove it it has to be fixed. There are two part epoxy liners you mix and pour in and coat the insides. You have to have the tank out and the sender removed. The kit comes with a etcher primer to clean the tank and you roll the tank around to completely coat the inside. Follow directions and get good results. 1 Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, datzenmike said: The tank is made from two parts with a seam weld all around the middle forming a small ledge that collects dirt that remains wet and can cause rust out. There are two part epoxy liners you mix and pour in and coat the insides. Follow directions and get good results. Thank you for the info! I'm sure i will figure out what that seam weld looks like, as soon as the tank is out. Also, i wouldn't have ever thought there would be an epoxy liner kit...sounds neat! lol @ roll the tank around...my neighbors might find that quite comical...me wrestling a tank in the front yard. this will be fun! 😣😵🥴 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 The tank looks like two dinner plates clamped together and a continuous spot weld is used, consisting of two rollers squeezing the rims together and welding them . Sort of like a sewing machine. Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 you mean, i've got to split the tank open and then weld it back together? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 Hell no, just saying this what you should expect to see when it's out. The outward seam makes a small ledge for dirt to collect on from the wheels. It stays damp and can cause rust to form. Have a look and see but probably go with the tank liner. Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 oh phew! okay, thank you! i will look there especially. I did find a nice liner kit last night. just under 75usd but it comes with cleaning solution too. POR-15 (4 part deal)...had great reviews. i gonna try running the car tonight a bit more. Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 If you decide to go the tank liner route, this is a pretty good video of all the steps. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 Thank you! I saved video...gonna watch it laters. Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sometimes i think that this is too much of a project...or i'm unsure if i should just sell the car for parts or if i should just sell it and move on. My family thinks i'm crazy... i mean...i like the car...but ugh...seems like so much to do and idk if it's too far gone. anywho...some pics of the car. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 We're all crazy one way or another. You're Datsun crazy is all. Is the wetness on top of the gas tank .... gas???? If so the leak may be higher up Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 The thing is... You have one now, Datsuns tend to multiply and if you have a keen eye parts are available. Row52.com saved searches are helpful as well as car-part.com for used stuff. Rockauto.com and your local parts place are good for new rebuilt service items. Don't worry about the rust and keep at it, sheet metal is replaceable. 1 Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 I have over 100 hours of labor invested in my 510 wagon alone. My sister once told me it still looks like i dragged it out of a junkyard yesterday. I laughed at her. If you absolutely rely on this car for all daily driver duty, it is reasonable to think it might be too much. If its a toy, then this is a labor of love and worth every step. Fyi, best easy way to fix that spare tire well is go cut one out of another car. I don't mean another of the same model. I mean just measure it for size and go check out junkyard cars for one the same size. Cut and weld (or have someone do it). Keep at it. There is no insanity more gratifying than an old car that still runs and its YOUR fault. 😀 2 1 Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 Honestly if it was me, i would just fix the gas leak issue, tune up the engine like you did make sure the engine runs tip top shape and get the seats reupholstered, put a new carpet and just drive it and enjoy it, i personally wouldnt mind any of the rust, it gives it character. Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 Also i would get a set of nice 13 inch wheels with a 2 step lip and lower it, Quote Link to comment
witchespellmichelle Posted October 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 lol! You guys are nuts! I luv it! ♡ Reading your replies made me laugh! 🙂 i was like...ugh...fiiine! I will keep it! I really appreciate the comments and words of Datsun wisdom and love. I will keep u posted! -Bella 1 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Lockleaf said: Fyi, best easy way to fix that spare tire well is go cut one out of another car. I don't mean another of the same model. I mean just measure it for size and go check out junkyard cars for one the same size. Cut and weld (or have someone do it). This is a great way to fix it. if you don’t have a welder, panel bonding agents can work as well. Basically super glues it together. Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 hours ago, ]2eDeYe said: The thing is... You have one now, Datsuns tend to multiply I started with one, now I’ve got 8. 3 runners, 2 back burner projects, 2 parts cars, and 1 for sale. 1 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) If you love the car, just chip away at it. No welder? You have some rust holes? Chop it out, fiber glass it. Whatever you gotta do to keep it on the road as your daily driver. If you come across another one in better shape, turn this into a parts car. Really up to you where you want to take it. One step at a time. Or just drive it like it is and enjoy your time with it. No harm is just letting it do it’s rusty thing.. unless it’s a safety issue. Edited October 9, 2020 by Draker 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Never throw an old or used part away. I've taken old parts apart to salvage some smaller part to keep something else going. Find ways to use a different part for one that is impossible to find. Learn to fabricate your own parts. Buy a FSM (factory service manual) for your year car. Leave in the bathroom and read it every morning. Buy tools as you need them. 2 Quote Link to comment
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