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So I mentioned in another thread that I had purchased yet another toy.  I bought a 1971 International Travelall.  Thats right folks.  I've gone cornbindin'.  Maybe its the country air from moving to a small town.  I bought it for a song and a dance because it didn't roll and featured a major floor delete.  It had no rear axle, and only one hub on the front axle.





This is the day I picked it up.  It took about 3 hours to get it loaded out of this guys back yard, raining the entire time.  In Utah, it never rains for that long at once.  It was sliding on leaf springs and dana 44 diff covers basically.  and one wheel.  Rear window is missing.  Rear window motor is missing.  Those motors are rare as hens teeth, so I will have to retrofit something else probably, like maybe suburban motor from the 80s.  The window is flat glass so I can have that cut from safety glass easily enough.  All the doors open and close solidly, no sagging.


That was in February this year.  And then it just sat while I figured out my plan.




Since the spare truck rims I have are all 6 lug nissan bolt pattern, I decided my best bet was to remove the one existing hub, and throw 6 lug at this thing.  The existing axle is a dana 44, so I picked up some junkyard chevy hubs that would fit and got those on the front.  My goal was cheap as possible roller so I could get it off my trailer and still figure out the rest of the plan.



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Also, I just want to note that I love the ridiculous paint on this thing.


 So, I picked up the hubs for cheap, and then I found a 1995 chevy 1500 rear axle for dirt cheap.  It was complete minus brake drums, $40.  Perfect.  All I would need to install it was to move the spring perches.


When I picked up the motor, the guy offered me the whole set of rims/tires, two of which were already mounted on the axle.  I said sure and loaded it up.  For $40 I got the axle and a set of 90's 15 inch rims with 36x14.50s, very tired, mounted on them.




I've never done spring perches before.  But since all I was looking for was a roller, I figured I could make it work.  Heres the axle as I prepped to relocate the perches.




My only cutting option was a grinder, so I went to town as best I could.  I ended up cutting into the axle repeatedly, which I am sure is a bad thing if I were to put this in full use.  But again, I wasn't worried, this is only a "make it roll" axle.  I slid up under the side of the Travelall and measured center to center on the leaf springs as best I could.  I got 39.5 inches.  Here you can see how far I had to move the spring pads in on each side.  The dark lines are the original welds.




And welded in 




With the axle as ready to go as it was going to be, It was time to try and slide it in.  I dragged the T-All up out of my back yard to the driveway.




Then things got sketchy.  I couldn't use a jack to get this thing high enough to install the axle, so I ended up holding the back end up with an engine hoist and just trying to jam some wood in places to keep from dying.




Later I was holding it much higher than this.  But I survived.  I had to slide the axle under using furniture dollies.






I couldn't get u bolts that would fit for less than $50 and days out, so I again went the "only good enough for a roller" route.


A Piece of scrap steel and some grade 2 bolts oughta do the job.





Sitting on a rear axle for the first time in who knows how long?  20 years or more by the way the guy I bought it from talked.



With the front hubs also swapped out, it was time to unload.  You can see the front end was so heavy it was tipping the trailer the wrong way to unload.  I have a winch on the trailer, but you can't winch a car off the trailer if its rolling in to your tow vehicle.  So I parked it on a hill going in to my back yard.




Using the winch, it rolled off pretty well.  Until it didn't.




Well, dammit.  That stupid hitch was a bane when loading this thing, and it's no better now.  Luckily I still had one of those Dana 44 diff covers to act as a ski.  I pulled the thing back up on the trailer a little, set the diff cover under the hitch, and it skated on that until the tires were on the ground again.  Then I drilled a couple holes in the front cross brace, bolted up my tow bar, and put this in the pasture with all its friends.




Here it will sit until my plans come to life.


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Random details on the vehicle.  It has a 345 c.i. engine, a T18 manual 4 speed transmission, and a dana t18 twin stick transfer case.  I have no idea if any of it runs.  There are no driveshafts at all.  Heres the floor.  You can see that they cut out a great deal of the floor pan for some reason.  And what isn't cut out here is actually wood, because the metal has rusted away.




rear cargo area is totally separated from the body.  Below is the drivers side of the cargo area.  You can see there is basically no connection to the body all down the side, and its even worse across the rear by the tailgate.




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Most the interior is there, it even has the frame and foam for a third row in it, which was uncommon.  That may actually be a scout bench back there though, but I could still make use of it.

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No keys, so I removed the key switch and just jumpered across terminals to see if I could start this thing.  All it really took was a little fiddling.  We thought we had no spark at the points, but as we messed with things and checked for voltage, we ended up with spark at the points.  I'm not sure if we did something or just were wrong at first.  Both are possible.  We didn't even clean all the spider webs out of the carb, we just hosed it with some carb cleaner and cranked it over.  It took a couple tries to get the starter to spin, but pretty quick we got it fired up and running.  Stumbly, but it ran without making terrifying noises.  Didn't even feed it fuel, just carb cleaner.  


The transmission had been stuck in gear and we couldn't get the shifter to move.   Running the engine freed that up as well, so now we can find all the gears and confirm that it is a 4 speed.


Mostly that was all for entertainment purposes.  I don't think the IH drivetrain is staying here.

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2 hours ago, Lockleaf said:

Mostly that was all for entertainment purposes.  I don't think the IH drivetrain is staying here.


Not the funnest engine, but they are damn hard to kill...  😄

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the 345 seems like a perfect engine to turbo charge.  Stock compression is like 8.7:1.  I'd fuel inject it first though.  Low boost 8-10 lbs, come on early in the rpm range.  Wake it up a little bit 😄.  I just dont currently have any vehicles I want to put such a ridiculous beast in to, so this will probably go live in storage as the T-All build progresses.

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6 minutes ago, Lockleaf said:

the 345 seems like a perfect engine to turbo charge.,, I just dont currently have any vehicles I want to put such a ridiculous beast in to, so this will probably go live in storage as the T-All build progresses.


If you ever weighed one, you wouldn't put it in anything. 😁


We had a friend rebuild the 4 cylinder version of that engine for his Scout at our shop. It bent the engine stand. 😄

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Very true.  These things are built like tanks.  In every way.  The thing I really want to do is more with the transfer case.  Its a twin stick dana 18, with PTO port which allows for the addition of a bolt on overdrive unit, also manually shifted.  So with a manual trans you end up with this 4 shifter setup that would be hilarious to me.  These pics are from a scout but you get the idea. 











I was doing research the other day to see what it would take to hook my T18 transmission to a GM engine.  It looks like I would have to get a Ford T18, swap out mainshafts to the IH mainshaft, then redrill the back of the Ford T18 to accept the adapter to the Dana 18 T case.  Then I could modify the front of the Ford case to accept a GM bellhousing.  


Lots of steps, but none of them crazy expensive, even when added together.  I think I could retrofit this trans/tcase to work with a GM V8 for under $300 (not including clutch, throwout etc.) So that is a thing I think might be fun to try/funny to build.  Of course, the overdrive unit is stupid expensive, so there is that.  How much is "funny" really worth?



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19 hours ago, Lockleaf said:

Of course, the overdrive unit is stupid expensive, so there is that. 


Could you just step down the diff gears? Or better yet, really big tires?  😁


19 hours ago, Lockleaf said:

How much is "funny" really worth?


To me, a lot. But I may not be the one to ask.  😄

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I'm not worried about the gearing.  I just really want that silly 4 shifters thing... so really its the most ridiculous motivation possible. 😄 

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