destruction of america

[john510]

8 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

TACO sure seems to have his fair share of riots while he is in office. BLM, Jan6, current LA shitshow. Doesn't seem to have a handle on any of them.

So what do you think he should do ? He didn't start the riots. It's foolish to blame him for anything that happens here in California. That's like blaming him for our high gas prices. Typical Trump hater.

[datzenmike]

Surely it could be be reasonably assumed sending in ICE to a California stronghold of immigrants would result in some push back. So yeah he did start this but it's no surprise. Sending in the National Guard on top of that? fuel on the fire. No one or not many are going to agree with the jack boots storming their state and 'rounding up the Jews'. So it's the government in armed conflict against it's own citizens. Brilliant. Other states are watching. No one has been killed... yet.

[bottomwatcher]

1 hour ago, john510 said:

So what do you think he should do ? He didn't start the riots. It's foolish to blame him for anything that happens here in California. That's like blaming him for our high gas prices. Typical Trump hater.

OPEC has opened the taps. Gas is cheap now. Yes California is responsible for their problems. Most of thier problems are self inflicted. When I was there in 90 they were paying their state employees with IOUs. The banks were actually cashing them to avoid a statewide meltdown. Been a mess a long time and yep I think the orange Taco is incompetent.

[Ooph!]

2 hours ago, datzenmike said:

Surely it could be be reasonably assumed sending in ICE to a California stronghold of immigrants would result in some push back.

They were arresting actual criminals that also happen to be immigrants, see attached article

 

So yeah he did start this but it's no surprise. Sending in the National Guard on top of that? fuel on the fire.

 Someone needed to stand up for us Bass and Newsum aren't

 

No one or not many are going to agree with the jack boots storming their state and 'rounding up the Jews'.

How can you compare enslaving and killing a group of people that are legitimately part of society with sending people back home that force their way in?

How many millions do you see rioting in California? If the average citizen didn't agree you'd see more, way more.

 

So it's the government in armed conflict against it's own citizens. Brilliant.

If that were so Bass and Newsum would be locked up already where they belong

 

Other states are watching.

Good, they see the different outcomes of responding with strength or weakness

 

No one has been killed... yet.

Granted

 

 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/us-news/mass-shooter-among-migrants-busted-in-la-ice-raids-thats-who-theyre-protesting-for/

 

https://dailycaller.com/2025/06/09/list-of-los-angeles-migrant-criminals-ice-arrested/

 

 

Edited June 10 by Ooph!

[Ooph!]

Change in LAPD response after a little spine was shown by the President.

 

 

 

Do you think this woman and her kids needed protection ?

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1932399790358225399

 

[Ooph!]

One more for good measure this mornings entertainment

 

 

 

[paradime]

Todd Lyons staged a publicity stunt in LA (riot city USA) and it blew up in TACO's face. What's the point of round up a few illegals at a local Home Depot, but turning a blind eye to the many companies who exploit hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants for cheep laborer? Where are the vids showing raids on industrial farming, manufacturing, construction, and maintenance companies? Targeting small potatoes for publicity is a prime example of hypocrisy in the Washington shit show. 

 

 

[datzenmike]

3 hours ago, Ooph! said:

 

 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/us-news/mass-shooter-among-migrants-busted-in-la-ice-raids-thats-who-theyre-protesting-for/

 

https://dailycaller.com/2025/06/09/list-of-los-angeles-migrant-criminals-ice-arrested/

 

 

 

That is so MAGA. Still what do you expect from listening to Taco's rhetoric about criminals, murderers and rapists coming across the border. Hitler did the same thing. The rioting is not for mass murders and criminals, who would think or say that? There will always be idiots (even criminals) in the crowd causing trouble. Most are protesting peacefully but that doesn't fit the story does it. Yes they have to go back. Can't help thinking there must be a better way. 

[bottomwatcher]

You forgot the part about eating your cats.

[datzenmike]

That was the Haitians. I think, but MAGAs eat the words from Taco like manna from heaven. Trump is a decisive prick. So was Hitler. So are most tyrants. You have to be able to blame someone. In the history f the internet has Taco ever said "I was w-w-w-w-w-wr-wrrr-wrron----g? 

[Ooph!]

36 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 

That is so MAGA. Still what do you expect from listening to Taco's rhetoric about criminals, murderers and rapists coming across the border. Hitler did the same thing. The rioting is not for mass murders and criminals, who would think or say that? There will always be idiots (even criminals) in the crowd causing trouble. Most are protesting peacefully but that doesn't fit the story does it. Yes they have to go back. Can't help thinking there must be a better way. 

 

OK explain to us how would You handle it?

 

[frankendat]

16 hours ago, paradime said:

Certainly in today's climate, political androgyny has to do with blurring the line between traditional sexual roles. I've also heard it defined as an individual possessing both lib and con ideals. It's a fallacy that returning to old traditions is posable. Not without some form of unjustified hierarchal tyranny; essentially social regression. When it comes to social evolution, there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

I disagree and find support for my disagreement throughout history and demonstrated in natural law, understanding that: 1. Equality is neither natural nor desirable. and 2. Humanity is temporary, but it is more probably than not, continuing beyond all reading this post. (I do not subscribe to post life fantasy)

Unjustified hierarchical tyranny is social regression, but justified hierarchical tyranny is natural and beneficial for the evolution of the species.  

 

Traditions, old and otherwise, are only fallacy if they are unable to adapt. It is as unnatural and illogical to remain stagnant, as it to deny hierarchies. 

 

To bring this discussion of ideals down to something tangible and arguable. As of this writing, there is a conflict in Comminfonia as to who is allowed to remain in the United States and who must leave. Individuals are attempting to remain in the United States and gather support for their cause by stealing from, damaging and destroying parts of the United States because they "love" the United States and wish to remain in the United States. 

 

Side stepping the intrinsic contradictions in that behavior. The United States government is enforcing a justifiable hierarchy. It is both justifiable and prudent to place the safety, the needs, the wants and the desires of the citizens of the United States above non citizens.

 

Those attempting to deny hierarchies (justifiable) are not only necessary but critical for survival have embraced delusion as reality. They pray to harness the power of tyranny to dominate and force subjugation to unnatural and unjustifiable hierarchies, which will become painfully evident when power shifts.  

 

 

[frankendat]

9 hours ago, datzenmike said:

Surely it could be be reasonably assumed sending in ICE to a California stronghold of immigrants would result in some push back. So yeah he did start this but it's no surprise. Sending in the National Guard on top of that? fuel on the fire. No one or not many are going to agree with the jack boots storming their state and 'rounding up the Jews'. So it's the government in armed conflict against it's own citizens. Brilliant. Other states are watching. No one has been killed... yet.

A country can't protect its boarders? All that is asked to come into America is that you are not a criminal. Can't speak the language? No problem (there are many work arounds for the "English test".But, wait, English still getting you down? The taxpayers of the United States fund English classes to those wanting to gain entry FOR FREE. Too old, or handicapped and can't work? No problem. There are free healthcare services available. Haven't worked and paid in enough to social security? No problem. No marketable skills. There are companies down at the boarder that will hire anyone for mindless work, but it pays--not much but it pays and it is in America. America allows far more than she denies, which is why there is a problem. Yes, the system is rigged to exploit workers, as it was and has been since the birth of the nation. Yes, with global information and global population it has to change. This is a result of change 

 

I say it often, multiple times on Ratsun I'm sure, the Statue of Liberty should be destroyed. The United States of America no longer can give a shit about tired huddled masses from other countries because we are full up on tired huddled masses.

 

The United States of America has been giving it away so long the world expects it and instead of being grateful they call her and treat her like a whore. Now the United States is wanting to not get used by everybody and wants to slow down. New group sneaking in is all, "What, bitch", "You think you're too good for me?" "And are trying to slap her around a bit." I pray my country stands up and finds her pride.

 

 

[Duncan]

On 6/9/2025 at 2:08 PM, datzenmike said:

 WTF is going on ? 

 

 

The National Guard is ONLY protecting federal buildings.   They are stationed around the facilities, and only engaging with the assholes who choose to FAFO.  Of course the press and politicians are blaming Trump for enflaming things.  I'd rather my tax money go to the cost of preserving our public facilities vs the cost of repairing them.

 

I've seen some mention that Trump's approval ratings have gone up recently.  He ran on the promise to get a handle on the border, and start getting rid of those who are here illegally. He's keeping his campaign promise.

 

I can imagine Kamala handling this with Newsome...

 

 

 

    

 

  

 

Edited June 10 by Duncan

[datzenmike]

5 hours ago, Ooph! said:

 

OK explain to us how would You handle it?

 

 

I said: There must be a better way. Signifying that I don't have one but not happy with the one now. There may not be a better way

 

I suppose you could pull all the ICE workers.  

[john510]

8 hours ago, paradime said:

Todd Lyons staged a publicity stunt in LA (riot city USA) and it blew up in TACO's face. What's the point of round up a few illegals at a local Home Depot, but turning a blind eye to the many companies who exploit hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants for cheep laborer? Where are the vids showing raids on industrial farming, manufacturing, construction, and maintenance companies? Targeting small potatoes for publicity is a prime example of hypocrisy in the Washington shit show. 

 

 

You know they're targeting illegals with criminal records right ? Should they ignore that and go for big numbers instead ? 

[john510]

6 hours ago, Ooph! said:

 

OK explain to us how would You handle it?

 

That's the problem with the anti Trump crap. They talk a lot of shit but have no solution. Just blame Trump because LA is full of uncivilized assholes and California has a spineless Governor that cares more about criminals than the good people in the state. And is promoting the violence. If a Democrat (Obama) were doing this nobody says a word. Why is that ? They don't know how to handle it except to give up and let the illegals and criminals have the freedom to be what they are. The scum in LA is destroying all that shit over 45 or so arrests of people with serious criminal records ! That's all, 45 criminals. They don't even realize what's going on and have overreacted really bad. But it's Trump's fault. Try applying some common sense people. And keep burning the city until it's gone. This is what America needs to see when it comes to Democrat leadership. I'm sure it's doing wonders for their approval ratings. 

[datzenmike]

 

 

[datzenmike]

 

 

 

[Duncan]

 

[Ooph!]

Edited June 11 by Ooph!

[john510]

7 hours ago, Duncan said:

 

A real voice of reason right there. And a leaf blower to blow away tear gas ? This is the mentality people are defending. 

[john510]

7 hours ago, Ooph! said:

A Democrat finally stands up for what's right. Got to have respect for Fetterman for going against his own party. I believe he's the only Dem I've heard speak against this madness. 

[frankendat]

11 minutes ago, john510 said:

A real voice of reason right there. And a leaf blower to blow away tear gas ? This is the mentality people are defending. 

Don't chastise, add your voice for support! Yes, Ma'am the government tries to keep the efficacy of leaf blowers quiet, but don't you let them. Did you know that most federal "assault" rifles shoot .22 caliber bullets?! An experienced leaf blower could misdirect those as well. Believe it. 

[paradime]

22 hours ago, john510 said:

You know they're targeting illegals with criminal records right ? Should they ignore that and go for big numbers instead ? 

Because Home Depot is where all the criminals hang out? You do know they're pressuring ICE to arrest 3,000 undocumented immigrants per day, right? Do you think that figure has a request of just those with criminal records?