destruction of america

[difrangia]

5 hours ago, a.d._510_n_ok said:

White supremacy and systematic oppression did this. We need more money for those programs. 

 

Those ghost bangs/curls, leaf-rake lashes, and ghastly fake-nails always immediately throw up a red-flag for me.

[paradime]

1 hour ago, john510 said:

So now you're admitting a Presidents policies will affect the stock market ? Is this because it's going down ? When it went up years ago you said it wasn't because of Trump. If I said that, where is it ? 

 

5 hours ago, paradime said:

 Maybe if you slow down and take your own advice once in a while, you wouldn't be asking narrow leading questions.

If I said that, where is it ?

[john510]

1 hour ago, paradime said:

 

If I said that, where is it ?

I'm going to look for it. I don't know how many pages back it is. You did say it.

[paradime]

1 hour ago, john510 said:

I'm going to look for it. I don't know how many pages back it is. You did say it.

I'll give you a hint. I was talking about Trump taking credit for a "Record breaking stock market" when It did nothing but follow the same upward trend he was given. Not the first time you've reinterpreted my point in debate. Slow down and take your own advice. 

Edited March 13 by paradime

[datzenmike]

 MAGAs think Trump invented the question mark. It's true because he said so.

 

 

[datzenmike]

7 hours ago, difrangia said:

Just a personal evaluation by/for me, but the markets, mainstream/airport news, and well sh!t just about everything socio-politico/society based is way long overdo for a return to closer to reality. Everything has been jerked back & forth by the economic and political power holders for so long that the mass of the members of societies just want to not be bothered by it all. That just allows/encourages the aforementioned 'power' centers to jerk sh!t around to even greater extremes. Sure, my 401K's and some other investments are drifting in a downward direction, but it's no alarm and I feel sufficiently diversified. It feels heathier than it has in a long time.

 

 

"What was that??"............... E. Smith (captain) 11:40 PM April 14th 1912

[datzenmike]

8 hours ago, difrangia said:

 

I loathe the individual or machine that attempts to correct or even notes my intentional speeling mistakes !!

 

But you just referenced my speeling mistake.

[difrangia]

12 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 

But you just referenced my speeling mistake.

 

Yes, I did, DZMike. You spell shit any way you want to and if I ever make a negative comment on your spelling or punctuation, you call me out on it !! Spell & grammar check is the first thing turned off on any new device I acquire.

[difrangia]

19 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 

 

"What was that??"............... E. Smith (captain) 11:40 PM April 14th 1912

 

I guess that's Titanic reference, but I'm slow on this one.

[bananahamuck]

[Ooph!]

2 hours ago, bananahamuck said:

 

[john510]

11 hours ago, paradime said:

I'll give you a hint. I was talking about Trump taking credit for a "Record breaking stock market" when It did nothing but follow the same upward trend he was given. Not the first time you've reinterpreted my point in debate. Slow down and take your own advice. 

You know I found it. I didn't quote it because I figured this is exactly what you would say. I get it. Bad news, Trump's fault. Good news, it had nothing to do with him. And you still double down on "it wasn't Trump" unless it's bad news. Obama gave Trump the good things that happened under his Presidency ? 

Edited March 13 by john510

[bottomwatcher]

Usually the president doesn't have much influence on the market. I wouldn't give Biden credit for the growth under his watch because the market does its own thing. What the market doesn't like is uncertainty and we have a whole crapload of chaos in the Whitehouse right now. The threatened tariffs, implemented, suspended, and rescinded are difficult to keep track of what the fuck is going to happen. Companies can't plan because the rules are moving so fast nobody can keep track. Until things settle down we are in for a Rollercoaster ride.

[datzenmike]

That's a fair assessment. So the president very much so influences the market in this case but in others it will ignore him because of inertia. It all comes down to risk management. Easy to invest when things are bullish less so in uncertainty. I'm still waiting for an ahaaaa moment when this president shows his master plan for the economy. Right now he's dabbling and jumping from one fuck up to the next while putting out fires. I see Canada imposed $30 billion tariff on US steel/aluminum following Trump again changing mind dropping 50% to 25% tariffs on Canadian goods. How is this good for the US who can't make enough aluminum for itself????? The only certainty is uncertainty.

[Duncan]

EPA announcement came out.

 

 

[Pounding Rox Truck Shop]

The US needs to make things in the US again, something the tariffs will force. As for him dabbling, no so, he's a deal maker and you can't be set in stone when it comes to changes on the ground. Everytime Canada flinches he pounces and Canada doesn't have the stomach right now without producing more homeless. As for investing when things are bullish...that's not when you want to invest, you want to invest when stuff is cheap. As soon as the band wagon rolls in you aren't making any profits. I bought NSANY minutes after they announed they were partnering with Honda for $5 a share, it jumped to $6 and I sold it all knowing Nissan sucks and has no future but I read the market news daily. Most don't, most look at the headlines and make silly assumptions, which is why if you didn't know in 2021 the market was a bubble ready to pop then this would be news to you. I have been banking on it because it couldn't continue. 36 TRILLION in debt to prop up a failing economy for votes and an unpopular war. It's time to crash the drunken money party. If you weren't prepared it is probably too last. The 10 year bond, gold and number of animals being dropped off at shelters tells me all I need to know about what is going on. 10 year bond is climbing, gold is almost $3000 an OZ and shelters are overflowing because people are going broke, tell me again how we don't need a market correction? At this rate, because the gov't and the citizens were stupid with their money, it will be a depression worse than 1929. I have no debt and even I am worried. I stockpiled 6 months of food, I have wood heat and a generator, it may come to that. Tinfoil hat? We'll see. If they start printing money you can bet your ass prices of everyday living are going to go even higher and will crush the general public to dust. This has been in the making since 2008 (1971 actually when Nixon took us off the gold standard), it wasn't fixed then. Now the market needs to collapse. Trump, love him or hate him, is trying...it may already be too late and the great USA is a dead nation. I really don't care if a few blue haired sexually confused journalists lose their jobs in all this, poverty is equity. I'm not immune either but at least I have 6 months of food and some bullets. I hope I never have to dip into my stash. Be smarter with your money and don't use credit unless you have the money.

[datzenmike]

Admittedly these regulations may have strangled production and even forced companies off shore but it is for the purpose of environment protection. We all live here. Without it, pollution can be a big problem. As such it may be years before the damage is detected.

[Duncan]

Well, I lived here when the smog was bad.  I remember having to stay inside on bad days because it literally hurt to breathe deeply.  This doesn't mean smog cars go away, it just means that there will be ONE Federal Std instead of Cal standards.  I remember when my Mom passed away, I drove her car back from Texas, and the smog guy told me it was a 49 State car.  I had to go to Phoenix and sell it to Carmax.

 

It's also extremely silly that when I visit Arizona, I bring back gallons of Naptha, Acetone, and upholstery glue to avoid the California versions. (which do not work as intended)

 

       

[datzenmike]

I hear that! Carburetor cleaner in the early '70s was unbelievably good on my 4 bbl. Later rebuilding my Datsun carburetor it was shit. Same make but was re-formulated. The original Gunk mixed with water and wasn't good for bare hands I noticed. Chrome plating used to be cheap but that all went away.

[Duncan]

I also had to go to Arizona to get paint for my wagon project.  IMHO, it's ridiculous that we ban things here, yet the older stuff is okay to use in the 49 other States.

 

When I was in the guitar business, we paid 6 million dollars for a spray booth to legally spray lacquer paint.  For a while, we had a guy who moved to St Louis and setup a shop just to do lacquer finishes.  The company relocated the Corp office to Arizona to avoid California's hostile regulations and taxes.  California also lost Nissan and Toyota..

 

And Newsom wonders why they left.

 

 

  

[datzenmike]

42 minutes ago, Pounding Rox Truck Shop said:

The US needs to make things in the US again, something the tariffs will force. As for him dabbling, no so, he's a deal maker and you can't be set in stone when it comes to changes on the ground. Everytime Canada flinches he pounces and Canada doesn't have the stomach right now without producing more homeless. As for investing when things are bullish...that's not when you want to invest, you want to invest when stuff is cheap. As soon as the band wagon rolls in you aren't making any profits. I bought NSANY minutes after they announed they were partnering with Honda for $5 a share, it jumped to $6 and I sold it all knowing Nissan sucks and has no future but I read the market news daily. Most don't, most look at the headlines and make silly assumptions, which is why if you didn't know in 2021 the market was a bubble ready to pop then this would be news to you. I have been banking on it because it couldn't continue. 36 TRILLION in debt to prop up a failing economy for votes and an unpopular war. It's time to crash the drunken money party. If you weren't prepared it is probably too last. The 10 year bond, gold and number of animals being dropped off at shelters tells me all I need to know about what is going on. 10 year bond is climbing, gold is almost $3000 an OZ and shelters are overflowing because people are going broke, tell me again how we don't need a market correction? At this rate, because the gov't and the citizens were stupid with their money, it will be a depression worse than 1929. I have no debt and even I am worried. I stockpiled 6 months of food, I have wood heat and a generator, it may come to that. Tinfoil hat? We'll see. If they start printing money you can bet your ass prices of everyday living are going to go even higher and will crush the general public to dust. This has been in the making since 2008 (1971 actually when Nixon took us off the gold standard), it wasn't fixed then. Now the market needs to collapse. Trump, love him or hate him, is trying...it may already be too late and the great USA is a dead nation. I really don't care if a few blue haired sexually confused journalists lose their jobs in all this, poverty is equity. I'm not immune either but at least I have 6 months of food and some bullets. I hope I never have to dip into my stash. Be smarter with your money and don't use credit unless you have the money.

 

Actually you don't need to make all things in the US. Some things are cheaper to import and in some cases safer to do so. So made in the US products are more expensive so what do you do? well the government can subsidize these products to make them more available but that still comes out of your pocket. 

 

So when does the SHTF event happen? Trump is a dabbler in things he doesn't have a clue about. You can paint over the cracks with it's a market correction well over due but at the end of the day it's all on Trump. The meddler.

[Pounding Rox Truck Shop]

Currently we only make Starbucks coffees in this country, we import everything and it needs to slow down. Biggest thing, we need to export our energy, not buy it from other countries. In WWII we made everything in house for the war effort, we couldn't do that now. This needs to change ASAP. What WILL happen is foreign companies will start building plants here again as a way around the tariffs like Japan did in the 70s and 80s, a good thing as it will employ US citizens. This must happen if we are to survive. 

[Duncan]

Speaking of coffee, my wife informed me that a three pound can of coffee (it used to be 5 pounds) was $17.99 at Costco.  She said that she was buying one every two weeks and the last couple of times she bought it, the price increased by $2 every trip.

 

I cut my 2 cups in the morning down to just 1 now.   

[john510]

6 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

Usually the president doesn't have much influence on the market. I wouldn't give Biden credit for the growth under his watch because the market does its own thing. What the market doesn't like is uncertainty and we have a whole crapload of chaos in the Whitehouse right now. The threatened tariffs, implemented, suspended, and rescinded are difficult to keep track of what the fuck is going to happen. Companies can't plan because the rules are moving so fast nobody can keep track. Until things settle down we are in for a Rollercoaster ride.

I absolutely believe Trump's tariff threats and even the ones he's enacted cause this market crash. I also believe it was way overdue and should have happened some time ago. Nothing Biden did was cause for a strong market. Biden's people cooking numbers probably prevented a crash. 

[banzai510(hainz)]

Japan has a700$ tariff on Rice from United States. USA is the BIGGEST Rice producer.

However Brazil is a big Beef exporter. Its a 2 way street but America has the biggest the ez market and other countries shut us out of theirs while defending them.Example Korea! is the worst.                India and China high import tax or regulation so hard that its impossible to sell anything there. or 50 tech transfer

 

As for Coffee and Egg prices?Everybody dont drink/eat for a month and that shit be cheap with over supply

 

A German made car is cheaper in the USA then in Germany!!!!!!!!!!!! Most 3 series BMWs are made in mexico. Keep the 25% on there I bet its made in S Carolina soon!!!!!!

 

america is broke!!!!!!!!!

Edited March 13 by banzai510(hainz)