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17 minutes ago, dhp123166 said:

Sour grapes eh?

 

 

Your grapes have been sour for almost four years.Ready for more ?   

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The days of Democrats ,Union,(pro America)Buy America from the 1950s is over

We have 2 canidates here in Washington that grew up or parents grew up in Communist /Socialist countries 1 Russia,! Cuba. I wonder why they became Republicans? Anybody???

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3 hours ago, dhp123166 said:

Sour grapes eh?

 

For me the Trump Show has jumped the shark.

 

It is no longer interesting and the ratings have fallen.

 

It will probably be cancelled soon barring its' chief competitor falling prey to the final cancellation.

 

It will be great when the Trump Show is shut down.

And the reason I didn't include Trump is because it looks like he wasn't involved, I'll give you the short version and the sources because I base my statements on FACTS.


1. Giuffre outright states Trump never did anything with here (as opposed to those who did) and she never witnessed him do anything with anyone else. The court documents do NOT implicate him at all but do implicate Clinton and Andrews. In fact the reporter for this actually made shit up about Trump which Giuffre adamantly denies. 

Giuffre testimony:

"In a partial transcript of a confidential video deposition unsealed today by a federal judge, Virginia Giuffre, one of the women who accused now-convicted millionaire pedophile and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein of sex crimes, said previous news reports by journalist Sharon Churcher detailing her interactions with now-President Donald Trump were “not true.”

 

During the newly-unsealed deposition, attorneys asked Giuffre whether statements printed about her or attributed to her in Churcher’s work were true.

“It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us,” Giuffre said of Trump.  “It’s not true that he flirted with me.  Donald Trump never flirted with me.”  When asked again later if Trump had indeed flirted with her, Giuffre said, “He didn’t.  That’s inaccurate.”

 

Giuffre was also asked about this statement attributed to her regarding Trump:  “He’d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ‘you’ve got the life.'”

“I never said that,” Giuffre explained in the deposition.

“I didn’t physically see [Trump] have sex with any of the girls, so I can’t say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn’t with me when I was with other girls,” Giuffre went on to say.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/virginia-giuffre-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-claims-reporter-embellished-many-donald-trump-connections/

https://nypost.com/2020/07/03/virginia-giuffre-cried-tears-of-joy-after-ghislane-maxwells-arrest/

https://www.westernjournal.com/explosive-court-documents-make-epstein-allegations-clinton-dershowitz-prince-andrew-leave-trump-unscathed/

https://milnenews.com/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-victim-testifies-that-donald-trump-was-not-involved-at-all/

 

2. Trump outright called up the Epstein prosecutor in 2009 to render any help possible. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/prosecutor-in-2009-epstein-case-said-donald-trump-was-the-only-one-who-helped-him/

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/

 

3. Trump never flew on Epstein's plane to "the island", the only flight recorded for him was from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey (that's about a 2 hour flight or short hop). Bit different than Clinton and Andrews who have multiple flights outside the country recorded and pictures with underage girls. 

"In 1997, now-President Trump flew on a plane belonging to jet-setting financier Jeffrey Epstein, joining the recently accused child sex trafficker on a trip from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey, court documents unsealed Friday revealed."...."Trump and Epstein were neighbors and friends in Palm Beach in the 1990s, though they eventually had a falling out. "

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-epstein-flight-logs-show-trump-flew-on-his-plane-in-1997

 

4. Pictures of Trump with Maxwell or Epstein are at Public Events with many other people, many times on Trump properties (i.e., a party, fashion shoot etc....). As opposed to pictures of Clinton and Andrews which are on Epstein's private plane with underage girls. See the difference.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/07/21/heres-every-time-donald-trump-and-ghislaine-maxwell-have-been-photographed-together/#33ec494f183d

 

5. Now on the speculative side the biggest reason we can say there is nothing there proof wise with Trump and Epstein/Maxwell is because if there was it would have already been used against him by the Democrats. So after years of digging up any dirt they can, the Left has NOTHING about this linking Trump to any wrong doing tells me there is likely nothing there. 

 

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Everyone here says based on facts. Not saying your's isn't just everyone else does.

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55 minutes ago, Dguy210 said:

And the reason I didn't include Trump is because it looks like he wasn't involved, I'll give you the short version and the sources because I base my statements on FACTS.


1. Giuffre outright states Trump never did anything with here (as opposed to those who did) and she never witnessed him do anything with anyone else. The court documents do NOT implicate him at all but do implicate Clinton and Andrews. In fact the reporter for this actually made shit up about Trump which Giuffre adamantly denies. 

Giuffre testimony:

"In a partial transcript of a confidential video deposition unsealed today by a federal judge, Virginia Giuffre, one of the women who accused now-convicted millionaire pedophile and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein of sex crimes, said previous news reports by journalist Sharon Churcher detailing her interactions with now-President Donald Trump were “not true.”

 

During the newly-unsealed deposition, attorneys asked Giuffre whether statements printed about her or attributed to her in Churcher’s work were true.

“It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us,” Giuffre said of Trump.  “It’s not true that he flirted with me.  Donald Trump never flirted with me.”  When asked again later if Trump had indeed flirted with her, Giuffre said, “He didn’t.  That’s inaccurate.”

 

Giuffre was also asked about this statement attributed to her regarding Trump:  “He’d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ‘you’ve got the life.'”

“I never said that,” Giuffre explained in the deposition.

“I didn’t physically see [Trump] have sex with any of the girls, so I can’t say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn’t with me when I was with other girls,” Giuffre went on to say.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/virginia-giuffre-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-claims-reporter-embellished-many-donald-trump-connections/

https://nypost.com/2020/07/03/virginia-giuffre-cried-tears-of-joy-after-ghislane-maxwells-arrest/

https://www.westernjournal.com/explosive-court-documents-make-epstein-allegations-clinton-dershowitz-prince-andrew-leave-trump-unscathed/

https://milnenews.com/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-victim-testifies-that-donald-trump-was-not-involved-at-all/

 

2. Trump outright called up the Epstein prosecutor in 2009 to render any help possible. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/prosecutor-in-2009-epstein-case-said-donald-trump-was-the-only-one-who-helped-him/

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/

 

3. Trump never flew on Epstein's plane to "the island", the only flight recorded for him was from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey (that's about a 2 hour flight or short hop). Bit different than Clinton and Andrews who have multiple flights outside the country recorded and pictures with underage girls. 

"In 1997, now-President Trump flew on a plane belonging to jet-setting financier Jeffrey Epstein, joining the recently accused child sex trafficker on a trip from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey, court documents unsealed Friday revealed."...."Trump and Epstein were neighbors and friends in Palm Beach in the 1990s, though they eventually had a falling out. "

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-epstein-flight-logs-show-trump-flew-on-his-plane-in-1997

 

4. Pictures of Trump with Maxwell or Epstein are at Public Events with many other people, many times on Trump properties (i.e., a party, fashion shoot etc....). As opposed to pictures of Clinton and Andrews which are on Epstein's private plane with underage girls. See the difference.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/07/21/heres-every-time-donald-trump-and-ghislaine-maxwell-have-been-photographed-together/#33ec494f183d

 

5. Now on the speculative side the biggest reason we can say there is nothing there proof wise with Trump and Epstein/Maxwell is because if there was it would have already been used against him by the Democrats. So after years of digging up any dirt they can, the Left has NOTHING about this linking Trump to any wrong doing tells me there is likely nothing there. 

 

 

 

Yes because Trump was discussing hair and facial regimens with the pimp Ghislaine Maxwell

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Millionaires can't go somewhere without notice? Whats money for but to cover your racks. Of all the millionaires in the world there isn't room for one more perv? 

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1 hour ago, datzenmike said:

Everyone here says based on facts. Not saying your's isn't just everyone else does.


One just needs to walk a fine line between complete insanity , unprovable nuttiness and actual half truths to be taken seriously in here .  
 

It’s like a cheap therapist That makes schizophrenics pay per person . 
 

 

. I never miss a day 

 

 

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I'm also thinking if Trump did anything on Fantasy Island somebody would have found out by now.With all of the investigating that's been done i'm sure they looked into that.Shit Hillary hates Trump so badly she'd probably rat out her own husband if it could get Trump's name smeared into it somehow.Just because you know somebody doesn't mean you behave like them.

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2 hours ago, dhp123166 said:

 

 

Yes because Trump was discussing hair and facial regimens with the pimp Ghislaine Maxwell

 

Awww, that is the best response you've got?

 

No facts, no sources, not one shred of logic, not even any effort.

 

Nothing to support your position except pure imaginative fiction based on your feelings and one lame boasting image purporting your level of "crazy".

 

How utterly mediocre. 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, datzenmike said:

Everyone here says based on facts. Not saying your's isn't just everyone else does.

 

I usually make a decent effort to cite my sources when I make a statement.

 

I still can be wrong or course, but at least my statements are based on the best available knowledge and reasoning that I have access to.

 

In general, that would mean the "confidence" that the statement I make is closer to the "objective truth" is higher than an unsourced ass pull comment would be.

 

Especially, comments and opinions based on "feelings" not facts.

 

When working with partial or by necessity less verifiable information, you can weight the statements with regards to their likely accuracy. It is not a perfect system of course but it allows for a logic based way of dealing with imperfect systems (like life in general) and building up enough information, direct or supporting, to inform your "model" of the world. 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Dguy210 said:

 

Awww, that is the best response you've got?

 

No facts, no sources, not one shred of logic, not even any effort.

 

Nothing to support your position except pure imaginative fiction based on your feelings and one lame boasting image purporting your level of "crazy".

 

How utterly mediocre. 

 

 

 

 

 

Now instead of me, apply these words as if you are addressing Donald Trump. 

 

It's okay when he does it right? 

 

Mediocre is better than hypocrite.

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18 minutes ago, Dguy210 said:

 

I usually make a decent effort to cite my sources when I make a statement.

 

I still can be wrong or course, but at least my statements are based on the best available knowledge and reasoning that I have access to.

 

In general, that would mean the "confidence" that the statement I make is closer to the "objective truth" is higher than an unsourced ass pull comment would be.

 

Especially, comments and opinions based on "feelings" not facts.

 

When working with partial or by necessity less verifiable information, you can weight the statements with regards to their likely accuracy. It is not a perfect system of course but it allows for a logic based way of dealing with imperfect systems (like life in general) and building up enough information, direct or supporting, to inform your "model" of the world. 

 

 

 

If you insist on absolute certainty, you will be paralyzed.  [J Paul Getty]  Go with your gut sometimes.

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                 Now you've REALLY offended people!!

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9 hours ago, dhp123166 said:

Sour grapes eh?

 

For me the Trump Show has jumped the shark.

 

It is no longer interesting and the ratings have fallen.

 

It will probably be cancelled soon barring its' chief competitor falling prey to the final cancellation.

 

It will be great when the Trump Show is shut down.

 

Get more information here:

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Dguy210 said:

And the reason I didn't include Trump is because it looks like he wasn't involved, I'll give you the short version and the sources because I base my statements on FACTS.


1. Giuffre outright states Trump never did anything with here (as opposed to those who did) and she never witnessed him do anything with anyone else. The court documents do NOT implicate him at all but do implicate Clinton and Andrews. In fact the reporter for this actually made shit up about Trump which Giuffre adamantly denies. 

Giuffre testimony:

"In a partial transcript of a confidential video deposition unsealed today by a federal judge, Virginia Giuffre, one of the women who accused now-convicted millionaire pedophile and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein of sex crimes, said previous news reports by journalist Sharon Churcher detailing her interactions with now-President Donald Trump were “not true.”

 

During the newly-unsealed deposition, attorneys asked Giuffre whether statements printed about her or attributed to her in Churcher’s work were true.

“It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us,” Giuffre said of Trump.  “It’s not true that he flirted with me.  Donald Trump never flirted with me.”  When asked again later if Trump had indeed flirted with her, Giuffre said, “He didn’t.  That’s inaccurate.”

 

Giuffre was also asked about this statement attributed to her regarding Trump:  “He’d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ‘you’ve got the life.'”

“I never said that,” Giuffre explained in the deposition.

“I didn’t physically see [Trump] have sex with any of the girls, so I can’t say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn’t with me when I was with other girls,” Giuffre went on to say.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/virginia-giuffre-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-claims-reporter-embellished-many-donald-trump-connections/

https://nypost.com/2020/07/03/virginia-giuffre-cried-tears-of-joy-after-ghislane-maxwells-arrest/

https://www.westernjournal.com/explosive-court-documents-make-epstein-allegations-clinton-dershowitz-prince-andrew-leave-trump-unscathed/

https://milnenews.com/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-victim-testifies-that-donald-trump-was-not-involved-at-all/

 

2. Trump outright called up the Epstein prosecutor in 2009 to render any help possible. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/prosecutor-in-2009-epstein-case-said-donald-trump-was-the-only-one-who-helped-him/

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/

 

3. Trump never flew on Epstein's plane to "the island", the only flight recorded for him was from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey (that's about a 2 hour flight or short hop). Bit different than Clinton and Andrews who have multiple flights outside the country recorded and pictures with underage girls. 

"In 1997, now-President Trump flew on a plane belonging to jet-setting financier Jeffrey Epstein, joining the recently accused child sex trafficker on a trip from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey, court documents unsealed Friday revealed."...."Trump and Epstein were neighbors and friends in Palm Beach in the 1990s, though they eventually had a falling out. "

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-epstein-flight-logs-show-trump-flew-on-his-plane-in-1997

 

4. Pictures of Trump with Maxwell or Epstein are at Public Events with many other people, many times on Trump properties (i.e., a party, fashion shoot etc....). As opposed to pictures of Clinton and Andrews which are on Epstein's private plane with underage girls. See the difference.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/07/21/heres-every-time-donald-trump-and-ghislaine-maxwell-have-been-photographed-together/#33ec494f183d

 

5. Now on the speculative side the biggest reason we can say there is nothing there proof wise with Trump and Epstein/Maxwell is because if there was it would have already been used against him by the Democrats. So after years of digging up any dirt they can, the Left has NOTHING about this linking Trump to any wrong doing tells me there is likely nothing there. 

 

Facts don't matter, it's what your feewings say that matter, damnit you should know this!

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3 hours ago, john510 said:

I'm also thinking if Trump did anything on Fantasy Island somebody would have found out by now.With all of the investigating that's been done i'm sure they looked into that.Shit Hillary hates Trump so badly she'd probably rat out her own husband if it could get Trump's name smeared into it somehow.Just because you know somebody doesn't mean you behave like them.

 

I 'know' the pope but that means shit. If I had spent time with him, called him a friend, partied with him then I have made a decision to associate with him.  If you run with someone it's understandable that you have things in common. People see you as similar. By association, if he's a pedo then you probably are  or are seen as one too. There are lots of people that I would NEVER be seen shaking their hand. 

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I wish i could make some sense out of that.

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Little memory refreshment for dhp who clearly is still suffering from Trump derangement syndrome....

 

 

I'm still mind boggled people believe the MSM... All you need to do is see/watch/hear all the information raw and if you're somewhat intelligent realize it was all a power play to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as POTUS.

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2 hours ago, angliagt said:

                 Now you've REALLY offended people!!

 

 

ME!?!! Turn down yer record player, you pony soldier and I'll tell you about my hairy legs!

 

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1 hour ago, KoHeartsGPA said:

Little memory refreshment for dhp who clearly is still suffering from Trump derangement syndrome....

 

 

I'm still mind boggled people believe the MSM... All you need to do is see/watch/hear all the information raw and if you're somewhat intelligent realize it was all a power play to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as POTUS.

Is his duty to cripple taxpayers for the next 100 years?  Or sink the country in debt?   If yes, we should likely consider stopping him shouldn’t we?  
 

also.  This is what happens every time.  Same with Obama.  

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5 hours ago, dhp123166 said:

Now instead of me, apply these words as if you are addressing Donald Trump. 

 

It's okay when he does it right? 

 

Mediocre is better than hypocrite.

 

You consider the billionaire, president, married to a model as "mediocre" ? That is literally the exact opposite of the definition.

 

I was applying those words to you based on your response. Your literal words. Your response to that was a deflection to criticism of someone else. I'm assuming from that you are not likely a big proponent of "personal responsibility". How absolutely surprising.

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Which I will note your comment still does not address anything I actually said in any logical manner.

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