destruction of america

[datzenmike]

 

[Dguy210]

 

[Dguy210]

 

[Mattndew76]

More on the Dictator and Chief Potato.

 

 

[Jahva Jef]

 

 

February 1st is today !!!

Go buy your neighbor a bottle of scotch !

Edited February 2, 2021 by Jahva Jef
homeschooling

[datzenmike]

Gunna take Joe Potatoe's home and funds away?

 

[Jahva Jef]

 

its possible ,,,,,

[Mattndew76]

Trump would have to be holding the reigns of power for that  E.O. to have any teeth. 

 

Last I seen Joe Potato is in the chief law officers seat not Trump......

 

There was no plan...Trump is setting up a run for office in 2024, and even that might not happen with this Bull Shit 14th amendment talk from the Democrat National Cheaters party. 

[a.d._510_n_ok]

[a.d._510_n_ok]

28 minutes ago, Jahva Jef said:

 

its possible ,,,,,

 

[frankendat]

13 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

That's kind of what I was thinking while watching Trump speak. There are lemmings listening to, cheering on and agreeing with the shit he was just pulling out of thin air. Kind of scary there are folks walking around that believe anything the man said. This wasn't a filtered by the media speech either just the Man and a microphone.  I only made a half hour, again I don't understand how people could stand there and waste their time listening to that. He's gone. Anyways we have 4 years of status quo politicians and hopefully someone will stand up that creates some kind of enthusiasm for going the voting booth. Getting kind of tired of the vote for the least worst candidate.

 

12 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

So, the leader who, by your account, "lacked leadership" is the same leader who was able to inspire i.e. lead, a group of American citizens, to attack the nations capital

     leading an attack on the capital isn't leadership. Its sick. People died and for what? I am surprised anybody supports this but then maybe not.Like I said that' was Trumps parting gift. The spoiled kid that pops the ball when he loses the game.

 

<SIGH>  The lack of reasoning displayed by these posts is as impressive, as it is saddening. I concede and have conceded, from my first post on this subject that Trump was not a great president. But, he  was magnitudes superior to the current administration.Attacking Trump, because he is a pompous ass, is acceptance of the narrative pumped down your throat. The narrative, which certainly holds some truth, is facade to keep focus on the unimportant, while those in power strip away fundamental rights. I don't care who cheers when Trump speaks. I don't care about Trump's personality. I find most political speech silly and nothing, but vague platitudes. If I attended a Trump rally,(which would require a location known for supernatural heat, becoming encased in ice) I would certainly cheer, if only to aggravate, Trump dissenters.

 

The attacks on Trump, from the media and from those in this thread, focus on unimportant character flaws. I agree that Trump lacked the refinements of former presidents, but problems of social etiquette are meaningless, when compared to the Democrat agenda. You are being played.

 

As for the capital riots, I understand the sentiment, but I view them only slightly superior to the BLM riots. I give the capital riots the edge, because those with grievances against the government, attacked the government or at least the symbol of government. As opposed to BLM, and the like, who voice against the  government and attack their neighbors or random bystanders/businesses.The problem of the capitol riots and the BLM riots, was action without a defined goal. Neither group successfully advanced workable solutions.

 

The vote, which now is spilt milk, was not the "lesser of two evils" or "anybody but Trump", as the pumped narrative played. it was a choice between capitalism and social/communism. It was choice between freedom of the individual and forced conformity. 

 

One of the posted comments, presented above, draws  comparison between those who chose Trump and lemmings, an animal known to travel in herds and follow blindly, even if it results in death. It is a good analogy, only it applies to the other side. I have yet to sit through a Trump speech, but I remain watchful for government or mega size corporations rules and  regulation designed to strip autonomy. As the Biden presidency begins, there has been an uptick in proposed and enacted regulation and action to undermine individual freedom. Either in direct opposition of fundamental freedoms, or by increasing regulation and cost, e.g. financial cost and social cost. Freedom, individuality, autonomy, will be priced out of reach for the majority. It is lemming following to focus on Trump's antics and overlook the real threats to freedom and prosperity. 

 

Remember you were told, as your taxes rise and rise, to cover the medical needs of the world, as your wages decline or your job is lost, to others, willing to do it for less. It is true that in a capitalist society, new innovations or discovery allowing more to be accomplished with less can create job loss. But, the commodity brought by the millions, who disregarded the laws of entry the United States, is desperation. A commodity currently abundant in the United States. A race to the bottom, to force increased governmental dependence. Increased poverty, will bring increased crime, to which the response will be expanding the police force, (more tax to fund) and allowing Federal agencies to support state and local police. A Federal police force is a necessity in a socialist/communist society and specifically prohibited by the Constitution. The intent of the founding fathers has been subverted by Federal agencies. Federal Agencies that have been receiving military "hand me downs" in both equipment and personnel, for the last decade and certainly have the appearance of a Federal  occupying force. 

 

There are examples of "cancel culture" where  people are "punished" by a mob, that attacks lively hood, reputation, even family and friends. The polices mentioned in this post are real threats, to Democracy, America and to individual Americans. But, for the last six months, the major news feeds followed Trump and petty bullshit. Again and again, it was, "Trump did this dumb thing, Trump said that stupid thing" and convinced millions that Trump acting a fool was somehow a greater problem, then the socialist/communist policies pushed by the Democrats.

 

[Mattndew76]

38 minutes ago, frankendat said:

 

 

<SIGH>  The lack of reasoning displayed by these posts is as impressive, as it is saddening. I concede and have conceded, from my first post on this subject that Trump was not a great president. But, he  was magnitudes superior to the current administration.Attacking Trump, because he is a pompous ass, is acceptance of the narrative pumped down your throat. The narrative, which certainly holds some truth, is facade to keep focus on the unimportant, while those in power strip away fundamental rights. I don't care who cheers when Trump speaks. I don't care about Trump's personality. I find most political speech silly and nothing, but vague platitudes. If I attended a Trump rally,(which would require a location known for supernatural heat, becoming encased in ice) I would certainly cheer, if only to aggravate, Trump dissenters.

 

The attacks on Trump, from the media and from those in this thread, focus on unimportant character flaws. I agree that Trump lacked the refinements of former presidents, but problems of social etiquette are meaningless, when compared to the Democrat agenda. You are being played.

 

As for the capital riots, I understand the sentiment, but I view them only slightly superior to the BLM riots. I give the capital riots the edge, because those with grievances against the government, attacked the government or at least the symbol of government. As opposed to BLM, and the like, who voice against the  government and attack their neighbors or random bystanders/businesses.The problem of the capitol riots and the BLM riots, was action without a defined goal. Neither group successfully advanced workable solutions.

 

The vote, which now is spilt milk, was not the "lesser of two evils" or "anybody but Trump", as the pumped narrative played. it was a choice between capitalism and social/communism. It was choice between freedom of the individual and forced conformity. 

 

One of the posted comments, presented above, draws  comparison between those who chose Trump and lemmings, an animal known to travel in herds and follow blindly, even if it results in death. It is a good analogy, only it applies to the other side. I have yet to sit through a Trump speech, but I remain watchful for government or mega size corporations rules and  regulation designed to strip autonomy. As the Biden presidency begins, there has been an uptick in proposed and enacted regulation and action to undermine individual freedom. Either in direct opposition of fundamental freedoms, or by increasing regulation and cost, e.g. financial cost and social cost. Freedom, individuality, autonomy, will be priced out of reach for the majority. It is lemming following to focus on Trump's antics and overlook the real threats to freedom and prosperity. 

 

Remember you were told, as your taxes rise and rise, to cover the medical needs of the world, as your wages decline or your job is lost, to others, willing to do it for less. It is true that in a capitalist society, new innovations or discovery allowing more to be accomplished with less can create job loss. But, the commodity brought by the millions, who disregarded the laws of entry the United States, is desperation. A commodity currently abundant in the United States. A race to the bottom, to force increased governmental dependence. Increased poverty, will bring increased crime, to which the response will be expanding the police force, (more tax to fund) and allowing Federal agencies to support state and local police. A Federal police force is a necessity in a socialist/communist society and specifically prohibited by the Constitution. The intent of the founding fathers has been subverted by Federal agencies. Federal Agencies that have been receiving military "hand me downs" in both equipment and personnel, for the last decade and certainly have the appearance of a Federal  occupying force. 

 

There are examples of "cancel culture" where  people are "punished" by a mob, that attacks lively hood, reputation, even family and friends. The polices mentioned in this post are real threats, to Democracy, America and to individual Americans. But, for the last six months, the major news feeds followed Trump and petty bullshit. Again and again, it was, "Trump did this dumb thing, Trump said that stupid thing" and convinced millions that Trump acting a fool was somehow a greater problem, then the socialist/communist policies pushed by the Democrats.

 

 

Critical thinking and reasonings are not allowed to work here!!

 

Trump said to protest peacefully!!! That means he wants us to attack other people secretly and grab their pussies!!

 

He also colluded with Russia to bankrupt hedge funds too.....

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by Mattndew76

[Mattndew76]

Yeah this is never acceptable at any level of reason. 

 

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by Mattndew76

[datzenmike]

Fucktard could have leaned in and pulled her over. Didn't see the entire affair but I bet it was punitive.

[Ooph!]

8 officers for that

 

[frankendat]

1 hour ago, Mattndew76 said:

Yeah this is never acceptable at any level of reason. 

 

 

 

Why  unacceptable? Is there a new policy that requires police to ask for compliance 12 times and at least once, including pretty, pretty please, with sugar on top? This is a no win situation for the officer. If it was a male officer that had the strength to throw the little girl into the car, it would likely incur greater vitriol from desktop commentators. If I was in that situation, then I would have responded like the male officers in the video and stayed out of it. No matter, how it was handled, someone would scream and if it was a white male officer, it would damage or stop his career.

Ask yourself, what would you have done? Kneel down and negotiate with the child? Try to "explain" what is happening? Give her a lollipop? I see this, as yet another victim of parents, who forgo corporal punishment, during child rearing. Corporal punishment provides a bright line, a boundary that brings quick and painful punishment if crossed. Often, I watch parents, "negotiating" and "explaining"  to loud, unrepentant children. Their actions fuel incidents like the one in this video. The police are not required to "explain" the rationale behind an arrest. They are not required to debate the merits of their actions. Perhaps, the trauma of this interaction will save her life in the future. 

There is a time to resist and a time to comply. Fighting the police, even if you are right, is neither productive nor intelligent, doubly so, continuing to fight, after handcuffed. Hopefully, this experience will be a lesson, remembered.

[datzenmike]

Wait a minute. You think this is OK?????????

 

The kid's only 9, and in hand cuffs. Have no idea what led up to this. Pepper spraying is probably the correct action for a combative adult but this idiot didn't think just knee jerk reaction. It was wrong, the parents will sue, rightly so, and win, and the child will get to go to collage. There was a better way, a right way to have done this. Like I said, what's to have stopped the officer from reaching across the back seat and pulling the child over???? She and the idiot with her should both loose their jobs. Pepper spraying a hand cuffed child. Shake my fucking head.

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by datzenmike

[Mattndew76]

24 minutes ago, frankendat said:

 

Why  unacceptable? Is there a new policy that requires police to ask for compliance 12 times and at least once, including pretty, pretty please, with sugar on top? This is a no win situation for the officer. If it was a male officer that had the strength to throw the little girl into the car, it would likely incur greater vitriol from desktop commentators. If I was in that situation, then I would have responded like the male officers in the video and stayed out of it. No matter, how it was handled, someone would scream and if it was a white male officer, it would damage or stop his career.

Ask yourself, what would you have done? Kneel down and negotiate with the child? Try to "explain" what is happening? Give her a lollipop? I see this, as yet another victim of parents, who forgo corporal punishment, during child rearing. Corporal punishment provides a bright line, a boundary that brings quick and painful punishment if crossed. Often, I watch parents, "negotiating" and "explaining"  to loud, unrepentant children. Their actions fuel incidents like the one in this video. The police are not required to "explain" the rationale behind an arrest. They are not required to debate the merits of their actions. Perhaps, the trauma of this interaction will save her life in the future. 

There is a time to resist and a time to comply. Fighting the police, even if you are right, is neither productive nor intelligent, doubly so, continuing to fight, after handcuffed. Hopefully, this experience will be a lesson, remembered.

 

My comment doesn't come with no consideration. 

 

Its unacceptable period from anecdotal experience with a child that doesn't comply to normal means of corporal punishment because her brain doesn't process like you or I. So given that I have placed myself in this position hypothetically. Not a single person in this group could have calmed my daughter down, and no point would I EVER accept her getting pepper juices sprayed into her eyes. Normal adults have a hard enough time keeping their thoughts linear, reasonable, or cogent under distress. We cannot place our ability to cope with distress on another person especially a brain of a 9 year old child no matter her size.  That is something that is a glaring failure of our law enforcement as a whole. The 9 year old is of no danger to the officers. She is restrained, and being 9 we cannot assume that she has any ability to comprehend the situations she is in. 

 

Given the 3 years of child psych I was required to take in order to appease a less than normal reasoning Ex Wife. I learned that a child's brain will not ever function Like you or I in this situation. Compliance is never an option when the child is literally the star of their own movie, and everything in life is seen in two categories of Beneficial interaction or Adversarial. There is no nuance to a child. Especially one that might have a cognitive processing disorder that runs very rampant in society now. 

 

I can give you a perfect example of how to approach this.

 

Be present so that the child has no means to hurt themselves, and, be patient allowing them to deescalate. It might take 15 minutes or 3 hours. Applying any type of forceful will on the situation always makes it way worse. 

 

I don't give much space for error when it comes to adults who have jobs that require interaction with the people 100% of the time. You either bone up on your skillset to work with psychology or get the fuck off the police force.  

 

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by Mattndew76

[frankendat]

10 minutes ago, Mattndew76 said:

 

My comment doesn't come with no consideration. 

 

Its unacceptable period from anecdotal experience with a child that doesn't comply to normal means of corporal punishment because her brain doesn't process like you or I. So given that I have placed myself in this position hypothetically. Not a single person in this group could have calmed my daughter down, and no point would I EVER accept her getting pepper juices sprayed into her eyes. Normal adults have a hard enough time keeping their thoughts linear, reasonable, or cogent under distress. We cannot place our ability to cope with distress on another person especially a brain of a 9 year old child no matter her size.  That is something that is a glaring failure of our law enforcement as a whole. The 9 year old is of no danger to the officers. She is restrained, and being 9 we cannot assume that she has any ability to comprehend the situations she is in. 

 

Given the 3 years of child psych I was required to take in order to appease a less than normal reasoning Ex Wife. I learned that a child's brain will not ever function Like you or I in this situation. Compliance is never and option when you are literally the star of your own movie and everything in life is seen in two categories of Beneficial interaction or Adversarial. There is no nuance to a child. Especially one that might have a cognitive processing disorder that runs very rampant in society now. 

 

I can give you a perfect example of how to approach this.

 

Be present so that the child has no means to hurt themselves, and, be patient allowing them to deescalate. It might take 15 minutes or 3 hours. Applying any type of forceful will on the situation always makes it way worse. 

 

I don't give much space for error when it comes to adults who have jobs that require interaction with the people 100% of the time. You either bone up on your skillset to work with psychology or get the fuck off the police force.  

 

 

 

Your point is taken. I yield.

[Mattndew76]

2 minutes ago, frankendat said:

 

Your point is taken. I yield.

 

I totally understand your view too. Those parents need help. The officers could have called in CPS counselors to help manage the situation and give outreach for overwhelmed, or ignorant parenting. 

[datzenmike]

What the parents really need is a lawyer.

[Mattndew76]

15 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

What the parents really need is a lawyer.

 

 Parents calling the cops on their kid needs some scrutinizing too. 

 

Ill try to find the write up. 

 

https://wearechange.org/rochester-police-under-fire-after-pepper-spraying-distraught-9-year-old-girl/

 

Parents won't have any issues getting a lawyer to take this on.

Edited February 2, 2021 by Mattndew76

[ratpatrol66]

6 hours ago, Jahva Jef said:

 

its possible ,,,,,

It's more than possible Jim did a several skits on SNL He stopped at some point? This was the first one I found so poking fun at Trump and Biden. SNL has always poked fun at every President since that show started so get over it. Remember Dana Carvey ended up doing a deal in front of George HW Bush. Going back to some of the guys I worked with crying about SNL poking fun of Trump. Get over it!!!  

 

[john510]

7 hours ago, datzenmike said:

What the parents really need is a lawyer.

And they need help learning how to be a parent.It might be too late.Is it just me or was that the biggest 9 year old you've ever seen ? 

[Jahva Jef]

https://rumble.com/vdfi4z-david-nino-rodriguez-february-will-be-good.html?fbclid=IwAR2rqq414j37rxtJ_UmfU5Z9EP7IotC9ufrhgPCYYrF0uTBdh64E7s2ou_s

 

couldn't agree  ^more