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17 minutes ago, bottomwatcher said:

"You have to go home now we love you and you are very special".  

Please explain this and how it could be construed as appropriate after what happened.

What should he have said that would be appropriate to you ? I'm thinking anything that came out of his mouth would be inappropriate to you.

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1 hour ago, bottomwatcher said:

Man you guys are killing me! I just watched half of Trumps pre riot rally and holy crap I don't understand how anybody can believe a word out of that mans mouth. I took a few notes. 

Starts out saying Pence needs to do the right thing( He did ) but not according to Trump.

Trump says Joe lost by lot (nope)

America was defrauded, weak republicans, scammed ballots, theft of the election. Elections were so corrupt. Blamed the equipment. He did say March and protest peacefully. Then he said can never take back the country by weakness. If you don't fight like hell you won't have a country anymore. These remarks are inflammatory to a crowd who actually believe the election was robbed. Trump knew what he was doing and probably the most damming statement is when he finally asked the protestors to leave and said "You have to go home now we love you and you are very special". Who would say that to a violent mob? 

Give it the fuck up already. 

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1 hour ago, bottomwatcher said:

Man you guys are killing me! I just watched half of Trumps pre riot rally and holy crap I don't understand how anybody can believe a word out of that mans mouth. I took a few notes. 

Starts out saying Pence needs to do the right thing( He did ) but not according to Trump.

Trump says Joe lost by lot (nope)

America was defrauded, weak republicans, scammed ballots, theft of the election. Elections were so corrupt. Blamed the equipment. He did say March and protest peacefully. Then he said can never take back the country by weakness. If you don't fight like hell you won't have a country anymore. These remarks are inflammatory to a crowd who actually believe the election was robbed. Trump knew what he was doing and probably the most damming statement is when he finally asked the protestors to leave and said "You have to go home now we love you and you are very special". Who would say that to a violent mob? 

 

Saying "Trumps pre riot rally" says it all. As stated the 'riot' was already on going so kind of hard to retroactively incite a 'mob'. Compared to antifa and BLM actual riots, mayhem, looting and burning, the 'storming' of the Capitol was a total tea party. 

 

He was hoping Pence would question the results. Trump can do that. If Pence had, and Trump actually did loose he would be fucked for future politics. It was, in a way, a smart move.

 

If you ignore the media and question a few things you can see that Trump is free to say whatever about the election results and believe that.

 

He did say march and protest peacefully.

 

"You have to go home now we love you and you are very special". Who would say that to a violent mob?" What violent mob???? the ones listening to his speech because the ones at the Capitol were too far away to hear. I don't think there was any violence at the speech.... point this out if you can.

 

 

So I posted the speech and you saw it, or half of it, maybe finish it and then point out where he incited violence.  Because you haven't shown anything in your above post other than a biased view fed you by the media. It's ok to dislike Trump, hell I don't like him and he has faults, and I'm not saying you are wrong to dislike someone but please stop saying he incited violence. (that you haven't supported when asked to defend, and in fact said the opposite...." He did say march and protest peacefully") 

 

There is a lot of shit going on that many are unaware of. A lot of censorship of social media, and this makes me very suspicious. But hey, if you are on the winning side, winning is winning, no need to know 74,000,000 other fellow Americans think something may be wrong with the voting system.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Let me begin with my, repeated, concession that Trump is a ridiculous, arrogant, ass, who had my vote - twice and I am sincerely, saddened, he is no longer in the White house. His buffoonery, which I blame for the "loss", of the election, drove votes away, especially in younger voters. America's youth (18-30 give or take) are quick to trade rights for comfort and focus on perceived reality, over reality. ( i realize these are sweeping statements, with many exceptions) They lack a personal connection with the destruction and loss that historically follows the goals championed by the sitting administration; Marxism, Communism, Socialism are theories and academic gamesmanship, without connection.

Massive immigration, regulation, and taxation of the Biden administration, will force more and more dependence on the government, which will allow greater and greater control.(And is very likely the intended result)

 

Realize, that the coming tidal wave of new citizens, will not be the neighbors of the democratic elite, they will not compete for jobs held by the democratic elite. If the new citizens are unable to find employment or refuse to accept, employment offered, then it will be evidence of systemic racism. The same systemic racism that attempts to "force" new immigrants to attend free courses in English and assimilate.

 

You and your friends and neighbors, either regulated/taxed out of business or unable to find employment, will need government assistance and that assistance, will require loss of individual freedom.

Words could not express the horror  of being unable to protect or provide for your family. I sympathize with the plight of those living in countries without freedom, but not enough to join them.

 

Self reliance and accountability are and will continue, to fade away. Those who resist control, will be economically, socially, and/or physically, incarcerated. The undetermined factor is the timeline of this destruction. Biden's proposed firearm regulations, gut the Second Amendment, in ways I didn't foresee, until the second term. (A second term is guaranteed)

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3 hours ago, frankendat said:

Let me begin with my, repeated, concession that Trump is a ridiculous, arrogant, ass, who had my vote - twice and I am sincerely, saddened, he is no longer in the White house. His buffoonery, which I blame for the "loss", of the election, drove votes away, especially in younger voters. America's youth (18-30 give or take) are quick to trade rights for comfort and focus on perceived reality, over reality. ( i realize these are sweeping statements, with many exceptions) They lack a personal connection with the destruction and loss that historically follows the goals championed by the sitting administration; Marxism, Communism, Socialism are theories and academic gamesmanship, without connection.

Massive immigration, regulation, and taxation of the Biden administration, will force more and more dependence on the government, which will allow greater and greater control.(And is very likely the intended result)

 

Realize, that the coming tidal wave of new citizens, will not be the neighbors of the democratic elite, they will not compete for jobs held by the democratic elite. If the new citizens are unable to find employment or refuse to accept, employment offered, then it will be evidence of systemic racism. The same systemic racism that attempts to "force" new immigrants to attend free courses in English and assimilate.

 

You and your friends and neighbors, either regulated/taxed out of business or unable to find employment, will need government assistance and that assistance, will require loss of individual freedom.

Words could not express the horror  of being unable to protect or provide for your family. I sympathize with the plight of those living in countries without freedom, but not enough to join them.

 

Self reliance and accountability are and will continue, to fade away. Those who resist control, will be economically, socially, and/or physically, incarcerated. The undetermined factor is the timeline of this destruction. Biden's proposed firearm regulations, gut the Second Amendment, in ways I didn't foresee, until the second term. (A second term is guaranteed)

Not to drag you into the quagmire of the folks on here attacking me but the reduculas  and arrogant ass buffoonery has landed us where we are today. We are in a colossal mess from a lack of leadership. The American people only had a choice of continued chaos or the status quo of shitty lifetime  political elites. We are fucked either way  

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Well there, you are sort of right. There was change happening but now it's backwards to shitty lifetime corrupt political elites.......... again. Starting now, see how long it is before you quietly start comparing your today, to how it was before 2021. You have forgotten that 74,000,000 Americans almost 47% of all voters don't agree with your view. That's damn close to 50%, half chose to continue. This is not in any way a landslide majority. Biden's popularity has been dropping steadily since the inauguration. Trump's went up, most new president's do but his is going down slowly.

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50 minutes ago, bottomwatcher said:

Not to drag you into the quagmire of the folks on here attacking me but the reduculas  and arrogant ass buffoonery has landed us where we are today. We are in a colossal mess from a lack of leadership. The American people only had a choice of continued chaos or the status quo of shitty lifetime  political elites. We are fucked either way  


Ha ha ha ha.

 

You’re a Fucken comedian.

 

 Given a choice to lose a foot or cut your dick off.  You’ve chosen to cut your dick off. 
 

Both shitty choices, But at least for one they  make a decent foot prosthetics and you can still have a good time.

 

Your choice is that it’s shitty so we might as well take all the fun out of it too. 
 

People chose the Shittiest outcome because of your definition of NEWS didn’t report shit, and covered up relevant criminality while colluding with ONE political party. 

 

it’s so cliché to say, but you’re a sheepish fool. 

 

Trump was the better option. The last 2 weeks of fiat legislation by Biden is proof.

 

47 executive action in 2 weeks of office? 
 

At least you helped the consolidation of the federal power.. Great job dude. 

 

“Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator, We're a democracy. We need consensus.”

 

 


 


 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

Not to drag you into the quagmire of the folks on here attacking me but the reduculas  and arrogant ass buffoonery has landed us where we are today. We are in a colossal mess from a lack of leadership. The American people only had a choice of continued chaos or the status quo of shitty lifetime  political elites. We are fucked either way  

 

So, the leader who, by your account, "lacked leadership" is the same leader who was able to inspire i.e. lead, a group of American citizens, to attack the nations capital. Everyday people, lead to risk loss of freedom and loss of life, to support a lacking leader? Unfortunately, the massive media machine has gotten under your skin. When Trump takes action, he is a dictator or fascist, when Trump refrains from action, he lacks leadership.

 

It is difficult, to refrain from unproductive pejoratives, when the current attacks on fundamental freedoms, championed by the Democrats, were explained in detail, prior to the election. The goal of this administration is to force a socialist agenda, which will lead to a communist rule, as it has in one-hundred-percent of the governments who have attempted it. The "chaos" you mention was generated and perpetuated by the media (both sides); I am sure the longer the Democrats remain in power, there will less and less, of this "chaos", as alternative and dissenting opinions are silenced or discredited by "experts". Freedom is messy, without it governments increase efficiency, at the cost of some ordinary lives.

 

With heavy heart, I know I am right, as it will provide little solace, when the noose tightens around my neck. Once you realize the value of freedom lost, it will be too late.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_5DRKZI1Ow

 

Not directly on topic, it was stuck in my head, after writing ordinary lives. The song was not released on my first copy of The Wall, on cassette, I had to hold a tape recorder up to the speaker on our BW TV and record it from the VHS.

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What I want to see is how Trump was reacting during the Capital incident. I bet he was rubbing one out watching it go down. Probably still spanking his meat at the picture of the guy sitting at Mad women Pelosi's desk.

 

I realized something about Trump and a guy I used to work with. They both have a way of talking to you and telling you what you want to hear. Guys at work would do anything Kyle asked them to, it was a total mind fuck. Craziest thing I ever saw. He was a puppet master with his hand in everybody's ass, at least trying. This guy could talk them into doing some very fucked up things. I talked with managers and they didn't believe me? Going way out on a tangent here!

 

I don't trust any Politian's as they are in it for power! People say Trump isn't a Politian he is a business man. True and Obama wasn't a Politian,  he was a lawyer.

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2 hours ago, ratpatrol66 said:

What I want to see is how Trump was reacting during the Capital incident. I bet he was rubbing one out watching it go down. Probably still spanking his meat at the picture of the guy sitting at Mad women Pelosi's desk.

 

I realized something about Trump and a guy I used to work with. They both have a way of talking to you and telling you what you want to hear. Guys at work would do anything Kyle asked them to, it was a total mind fuck. Craziest thing I ever saw. He was a puppet master with his hand in everybody's ass, at least trying. This guy could talk them into doing some very fucked up things. I talked with managers and they didn't believe me? Going way out on a tangent here!

 

I don't trust any Politian's as they are in it for power! People say Trump isn't a Politian he is a business man. True and Obama wasn't a Politian,  he was a lawyer.

That's kind of what I was thinking while watching Trump speak. There are lemmings listening to, cheering on and agreeing with the shit he was just pulling out of thin air. Kind of scary there are folks walking around that believe anything the man said. This wasn't a filtered by the media speech either just the Man and a microphone.  I only made a half hour, again I don't understand how people could stand there and waste their time listening to that. He's gone. Anyways we have 4 years of status quo politicians and hopefully someone will stand up that creates some kind of enthusiasm for going the voting booth. Getting kind of tired of the vote for the least worst candidate.

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So, the leader who, by your account, "lacked leadership" is the same leader who was able to inspire i.e. lead, a group of American citizens, to attack the nations capital

     leading an attack on the capital isn't leadership. Its sick. People died and for what? I am surprised anybody supports this but then maybe not.Like I said that' was Trumps parting gift. The spoiled kid that pops the ball when he loses the game.

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8 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

Not to drag you into the quagmire of the folks on here attacking me but the reduculas  and arrogant ass buffoonery has landed us where we are today. We are in a colossal mess from a lack of leadership. The American people only had a choice of continued chaos or the status quo of shitty lifetime  political elites. We are fucked either way  

What colossal mess were we in other than a pandemic ? The politics was a mess for sure but that's from both sides and one side in particular more than the other..I know many Trump haters.I can't get any of them to give me one example of a Trump policy that affected their personal life in any way shape or form,not one ! 

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2 hours ago, john510 said:

What colossal mess were we in other than a pandemic ? The politics was a mess for sure but that's from both sides and one side in particular more than the other..I know many Trump haters.I can't get any of them to give me one example of a Trump policy that affected their personal life in any way shape or form,not one ! 

My job. I work in the offshore oil and gas industry and should have been heading to Norfolk for a wind farm job. That's  been delayed. Trump was no friend to the offshore energy sector.

https://saportareport.com/trumps-ban-on-offshore-oil-drilling-also-halts-development-of-wind-farms-to-2032/sections/reports/david/

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He may be a dick, he may be un-presidential, he may be embarrassing to watch, he may be loud and obnoxious, he may be a lot of thing no one likes, but he seems to get the job done. The media does not cover those things or glosses over them and picks at him for mostly stupid shit. Draining the swamp isn't and wasn't easy. I still don't like him but like Hillary before, he's the lesser of two evils.

 

The shift away from fossil fuels should be slower and more gradual not turning off the tap abruptly like Biden is doing. America will suffer withdrawals like an addict when fuel prices go up, and they will. This should feed an interest in alternative energy such as wind.  

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8 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

So, the leader who, by your account, "lacked leadership" is the same leader who was able to inspire i.e. lead, a group of American citizens, to attack the nations capital

     leading an attack on the capital isn't leadership. Its sick. People died and for what? I am surprised anybody supports this but then maybe not.Like I said that' was Trumps parting gift. The spoiled kid that pops the ball when he loses the game.

 

What TF are you on????? Now you say he " was able to inspire i.e. lead, a group of American citizens, to attack the nations capital" I just posted an argument to this where this is media BS for those too lazy to watch the speech and be told what to think. Even you admitted that in his speech....

 

23 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

 He did say March and protest peacefully.

 

So he incited violence by saying to protest peacefully??????????? I strongly suggest you watch the entire speech because I think that you are assuming that he said something else that he didn't. Watch it in it's entirety and you'll have no excuse to say what you have said. 

 

Having accepted that the media is not being totally impartial .... start looking at a lot of other things that you were told, and by lie of omission NOT told. It's hard to question your own beliefs. Trump is not the greatest but the Bidens are rotten corrupt. Find out about Hunter Biden's lap top and what was on it... how it was turned over to the FBI and nothing came of it but a copy was made. Look at his partners in crime in the Ukraine. How he is a fucked up crack head. How money was alleged to be funneled to his father. How he (with absolutely zero experience) was paid hundreds of thousands to be on the board of directors just because he is Joe's son and had access to then vice president Biden and Obama. I haven't even started on China and the CCP yet. There is a ton of shit out there not reported by the media. This just the tip of the Biden cock up America's ass. Start digging.

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3 minutes ago, Mattndew76 said:

 

Well do you think Hunter Biden will stand trial for his laundering crimes?

 

Likely not. Sniff test on this guy isnt roses.

 

https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/01/31/the-ex-business-partner-of-hunter-bidens-criminal-defense-attorney-is-picked-for-a-top-justice-department-position/

 

Perfect example!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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6 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

My job. I work in the offshore oil and gas industry and should have been heading to Norfolk for a wind farm job. That's  been delayed. Trump was no friend to the offshore energy sector.

https://saportareport.com/trumps-ban-on-offshore-oil-drilling-also-halts-development-of-wind-farms-to-2032/sections/reports/david/

Well if you think Trump is bad just wait for Biden.Which one of those two has the most extreme goals regarding energy sources ? 

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33 minutes ago, Mattndew76 said:

 

Well do you think Hunter Biden will stand trial for his laundering crimes?

 

Likely not. Sniff test on this guy isnt roses.

 

https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/01/31/the-ex-business-partner-of-hunter-bidens-criminal-defense-attorney-is-picked-for-a-top-justice-department-position/

Absolutely not.I'd be surprised if we even hear anymore about it in the regular news.

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