BrothersGarage Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, john510 said: There was nothing to ignore. As always, I enjoy the bad faith arguments. Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, BrothersGarage said: As always, I enjoy the bad faith arguments. Well you are good at it. 1 Quote Link to comment
BrothersGarage Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, john510 said: Well you are good at it. BTW: Quote This bill addresses the security of federal elections, including by requiring paper ballots, requiring audits of election results, and establishing requirements for election cybersecurity. The bill provides requirements for ballots. Voting systems must use a paper ballot that is verifiable by a voter before being cast and these ballots must be retained for recounts or audits. During a recount, ballots must be counted by hand. States and jurisdictions must perform an audit of an election that must include a manual adjudication of voter intent from some or all of the ballots cast. The audit results must meet specified statistical requirements and must be published before such election is certified. The bill provides a private right of action for any person aggrieved by a violation of voting system or audit requirements. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1472 Quote Link to comment
Jahva Jef Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jesse C. said: We are in communist China now, that's all we get. 1 Quote Link to comment
Cardinal Grammeter Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Could be that both the R & D wanted to get rid of Trump so there was a sort of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing going on to get rid of him. But when order is restored and R&D rule things, they may not tolerate one party trying to cheat the other party - this would be akin to someone in the Mafia cheating someone else in the Mafia - that will not be tolerated. So we may end up with a reasonably audible voting system in a couple decades! LOL 2 Quote Link to comment
Dguy210 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cardinal Grammeter said: Could be that both the R & D wanted to get rid of Trump so there was a sort of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing going on to get rid of him. But when order is restored and R&D rule things, they may not tolerate one party trying to cheat the other party - this would be akin to someone in the Mafia cheating someone else in the Mafia - that will not be tolerated. So we may end up with a reasonably audible voting system in a couple decades! LOL The thing is Trump is not really a Republican, he is more of a centrist populist. His base by and large does not like classical Republicans all that much. In reality the R and D have always been more about seeking power than representing the people and have always been on their OWN side and closer to each other with much of the back and forth being theatre. What set Trump apart is he was effectively an outsider to the political system who did not want to play the ball game with the entrenched politicians, which is something that threatened power on both sides. For a Mafia example it would be like having two big crime families that have already split power up in an area and had a "working" relationship suddenly getting some young upstart Yakuza coming in and pushing back at them, and doing so successfully. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Cardinal Grammeter Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 My point is that the R&D when in control would not accept election fraud and now that it has been exposed, they may close the loopholes. But it would be a shame to dismantle a perfectly good fraudulent voting system, eh? 4 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Todays Viva and Barnes was incredibly inciteful. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Well that explains everything. 3 Quote Link to comment
Jahva Jef Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 BETA ! Greatest song ever writen Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Dguy210 said: The thing is Trump is not really a Republican, he is more of a centrist populist. His base by and large does not like classical Republicans all that much. In reality the R and D have always been more about seeking power than representing the people and have always been on their OWN side and closer to each other with much of the back and forth being theatre. What set Trump apart is he was effectively an outsider to the political system who did not want to play the ball game with the entrenched politicians, which is something that threatened power on both sides. For a Mafia example it would be like having two big crime families that have already split power up in an area and had a "working" relationship suddenly getting some young upstart Yakuza coming in and pushing back at them, and doing so successfully. It would be like the mafia moving into a town run by the people. As dysfunctional as the two party democratic republic we have, it was drafted and brought about to ensure no man or family could move in and rule without impunity, and without the confirmation of the people. Trumps appreciation of and praise of regime leaders, and ruling families is concerning, but his actions to dismantle every part of government he didn’t feel in control of is simply, blindly anti American. You guys are correct, he is not a typical Republican and I feel for the party. But he is not trying to be a President, he’s trying to be a monarch. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 You are known by the company you keep.... 2 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) . Edited December 14, 2020 by Draker fake news Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 This a Trump pardon?? Wise move as this will free him up to fuck up everyone else. My B-in-law figures he's (Trump) laid his plans long ago to trap the Dems and the swampy GOPs. I'm still waiting...... Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, datzenmike said: This a Trump pardon?? Wise move as this will free him up to fuck up everyone else. My B-in-law figures he's (Trump) laid his plans long ago to trap the Dems and the swampy GOPs. I'm still waiting...... It was more or less fake news, at least as of right now. Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) MI is falling. https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/michigan-dominion-report/ Edited December 14, 2020 by Mattndew76 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Draker said: It was more or less fake news, at least as of right now. The idea was floated by a trump aide without his ok or knowledge. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mattndew76 said: MI is falling. Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 WI has a chance to fall too, if Trump team does its legal filing and canvasing correct. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Mattndew76 said: WI has a chance to fall too, if Trump team does its legal filing and canvasing correct. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 I thought this was going to be some tech long winded thing but folded or not folded? low tech goodness 1 Quote Link to comment
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