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Yes, Ford is losing significant money on electric vehicles (EVs), with losses in its "Model e" division reaching billions annually—nearly $5 billion in 2024 and projected similar losses through 2026. The company has written off over $19 billion due to softened demand and high production costs, delaying expected EV profitability until at least 2029

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Yes, General Motors (GM) has faced massive financial losses related to its electric vehicle (EV) strategy, reporting roughly $9 billion in total write-offs and charges over the past six months (as of early 2026). While GM is investing heavily in EVs, a significant portion of these losses stems from scaling back production, canceling projects, and supplier settlements rather than just production costs.

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Yes, Stellantis is taking massive losses on its electric vehicle (EV) strategy, reporting a $26.3 billion ($26B) net loss in 2025. This historic loss is primarily due to charges from reversing its aggressive "Dare Forward 2030" EV strategy, canceling planned EV models, and pivoting back to hybrid and internal-combustion vehicles due to weak consumer demand.

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So  EV's has no resell valve.So Thank your buddy Joe Biden and Newsome.I bet Cali is full of them.You dont hardly see T.V. commercials selling them.Long time ago when Nissan came out with leaf that no one bought.They were having sells here.Buy a New Nissan and get a leaf for free.The Leaf experiences high depreciation, losing up to 70% of its value over three years. 

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Great for shorter drives like in a city. No good to travelling. Thought Trump didn't like EVs either. My wife has a hybrid? Has a battery in it that captures and saves power that can be injected into the drive train on take offs from the lights or emergency power. Car pulls away from stops and engine kicks in by the far sidewalk. Gas engine shuts off at stops or when coasting on the highway. Most gas is wasted getting vehicle moving. Eventually we will have to move to EVs. Guess the big oil wants to squeeze as much out of petroleum as they can.  

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On 5/3/2026 at 12:04 PM, a.d._510_n_ok said:

Canadians & 'merikins coexisting - scary asf honestly. FB_IMG_1777831320908.thumb.jpg.b8d00dfe45f5c01ca63466389903223e.jpg

It shows a fundamental truth, black, white, hillbilly, redneck, queer take a backseat to poor vs. rich

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2 hours ago, datzenmike said:

Great for shorter drives like in a city. No good to travelling. Thought Trump didn't like EVs either. My wife has a hybrid? Has a battery in it that captures and saves power that can be injected into the drive train on take offs from the lights or emergency power. Car pulls away from stops and engine kicks in by the far sidewalk. Gas engine shuts off at stops or when coasting on the highway. Most gas is wasted getting vehicle moving. Eventually we will have to move to EVs. Guess the big oil wants to squeeze as much out of petroleum as they can.  

I don't know what to believe. Groups of people, some who seem smart, some who seem not so, claim there is plenty of oil in the world. Groups of people, some who seem smart, some who seem not so, claim there will be no more oil tomorrow. Groups of people, some who seem smart, some who seem not so, claim emission pollution will heat up the world, Groups of people, some who seem smart, some who seem not so, claim emission pollution will cool down the world. It is a fact, that China will continue to pollute on a massive scale and will increase production polluting more at the same rate as other countries curtail production and produce less. Why is this a fact? Because, China will not sacrifice expanding their economy and power to appease some international cunt coalition. Or can you imagine a world forum greenlighting an attack on China (Nuclear?) based on refusing to follow international pollution protocols? No one has the balls. Balls to go to war over the environment and as the world relies more and more on Chinese "old school" lack of regulation production sooner rather than later no balls at all, because China will own them. How many plastic bottles need to be recycled to offset the pollution of one bomb? What if it is nuclear? 
I will still pick up my trash and separate it for recycling, but I believe it does fuck all, in the big picture. I do not see a long term survival plan for the species, but it should last long enough for me to die free. 

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I posted before about the guys in Europe showing the spirit of "Ratsun" old school vehicle modification is alive. It was the most hopeful thing I have seen, so I bring it up again, because my last post was depressing. If you remember, as the hybrid EV's die (need new batteries) and the expense of the batteries make them worthless. So, the broke and youthful, buy them cheap take the hybrids strip them down to lighten them up and rod the little hybrid petrol engines to make some fast ratty rods. I am sad American kids aren't doing this, but at least some people keep the dream alive. 

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In Columbus,Ga.They have 3 big different color trash cans and have to separate there trash.No one knows what really is in them cans.A truck picks it up mechanically and dumps it separate places in the truck.No more prisoners.The drivers also tear up the trash cans.Out here in the backwoods we have one Can.I use one 39 gallon trash bag and drop it by my mail box and a prisoner throws it on the garbage truck.Also everyone here has a burn barrell

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17 hours ago, frankendat said:

It shows a fundamental truth, black, white, hillbilly, redneck, queer take a backseat to poor vs. rich

Always does. Trans & BLM went into the shitter when rent and gas prices spiked. You can't spend freely on ideological air castles when you don't make enough to cover the weekly pod rent. 

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4 hours ago, datzenmike said:

Sure they can. Use a turkey baster. 

 

Aren't almost all of us immigrants? Even native Americans walked here what? 15,000 years ago.

Bet they are all dead.I was born in Anchorage,Alaska at Elmindorf Air Force base. Dad was Military.His dad worked for the Railroad in North Carolina.Military brought us to Georgia.Dad's family are in  North Carolina.Mom is from Eufaula,Alabama.

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You are not native to where you are now so you are an immigrant.  

 

Hows the war with Iran going? How many times does it have to be over to be over???? a/  I've lost count

b/ ...if it's over, why are the UAE being blown up with missiles?

 

After 90 min phone call with Putin Trump (winner of the first FIFA Peace Award) is now withdrawing 6 thousand troops from NATO Germany. Did Putin tell him to?

 

What's the price of gas? around $4.50 today? Tommy what's your gas price?

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Got a tank of gas  today.It was 3.76.It was 3.19,12 days ago when I filled it up then.I used the 87 octane.The 93 octane is 1.02 more per gallon the the 87 octane.They are having gas 40 cent off tomorrow at Circle K  chain here.Do it every year?Going to be dangerous there.Remember our .33 cent gas tax  is eliminated right now.

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2 hours ago, datzenmike said:

You are not native to where you are now so you are an immigrant.  

 

Hows the war with Iran going? How many times does it have to be over to be over???? a/  I've lost count

b/ ...if it's over, why are the UAE being blown up with missiles?

 

After 90 min phone call with Putin Trump (winner of the first FIFA Peace Award) is now withdrawing 6 thousand troops from NATO Germany. Did Putin tell him to?

 

What's the price of gas? around $4.50 today? Tommy what's your gas price?

Never was a war.We were bombing their country.They didn't bomb our's.No one willI come bomb us now with Trump around.He has  Canada,Ruissia and China and North Korea shaking.Born in the USA.100% Genuine...A land owner.Means I own part of USA.All mine.Got to know the password to enter.Means I have stock in my Country.Also a Burn  barrel. We take no prisoners here.If want to visit.You have to check in with ICE first Mike.The Perkins are all American.

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Gas is significantly more expensive in Canada than in the USA, primarily due to higher taxes and lower fuel taxes in the United States. Canadian gas prices can be roughly 25-50% higher, with substantial differences attributed to federal/provincial taxes, environmental fees, and weaker currency, whereas US gas prices are lower due to more refineries and shorter supply routes.

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3 hours ago, Thomas Perkins said:

Mom is from Eufaula,Alabama.

In the 80s I spent summers in Eufaula, Oklahoma. In the mid 1990s as a young, tired CDL driver I saw a road sign for Eufaula, Alabama en route to a delivery in Florida at about 4:30am & thought my brain was fried. There's a Muskogee, Oklahoma & a Muscogee, Georgia? Alabama? as well as a Washita, Oklahoma & a Ouchita, ??? can't remember the state but both are pronounced the same. Trail of Tears connections. Only one Chickasha though & if the weather man pronounces it wrong we know he ain't local - chick-uh-shay.

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