Thomas Perkins Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 (edited) Federal program ships marijuana to four April 20, 2012 / 10:41 AM EDT / CBS News Add CBS News on Google elvymusikka_AP11092709277.jpg AP Uncle Sam a drug pusher? It's true. For the past three decades, a handful of Americans have been getting regular deliveries of high-grade marijuana, courtesy of the federal government. It's all part of the Compassionate Investigational New Drug program, a little-known initiative that grew out of a 1976 court decision that created the nation's first legal pot smokers. Of the 14 people who were in the program initially, four are still alive. Keep clicking to meet the government-sanctioned marijuana mavens and learn more about the program - including where the government gets the pot in the first place... firstINDpatients.jpg Alice O'Leary This 1990 photo shows the first five patients in the program. Robert Randall (standing) was the very first patient and is known as the "father of medical marijuana." From left to right: Corinne Millet, Elvy Musikka, George McMahon, and Irvin Rosenfeld. potpatient_AP11092709240.jpg AP Elvy Musikka, a 72-year-old woman from Eugene, Ore., receives marijuana to treat her glaucoma. potpatient_AP11092709286.jpg AP Musikka was pulled over by a cop while driving through Oregon last September. The state trooper did not believe the marijuana in her possession was legal, which led to an investigation that put a spotlight on the little-known government program. potpatient_AP11092709302.jpg AP Sixteen states currently allow medical marijuana. The government stopped accepting new patients to its program in 1992 due to a crackdown on crime and public health authorities concluding it had no scientific value. But Uncle Sam has since continued to supply marijuana to the four living patients "for compassionate reasons," according to Steven Gust of the U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse. These patients have been relying on the drug to help with their health problems for decades. potpatient_AP11092709259.jpg AP Here's a label on a typical canister sent to patients in the program. irvinrosenfeld.jpg AP Irvin Rosenfeld, who entered the program in 1982, suffers from a rare bone disorder and uses marijuana to treat his pain. Rosenfeld is an outspoken public advocate of the government's medical marijuana program. george_mcmahon.jpg McMahon Family Photo George McMahon has been receiving joints from the government since March 1990. McMahon suffers from a rare neurological disease known as Nail Patella Syndrome (NPS), characterized by abnormalities of the nails, knees, elbows, and pelvis. INDpatients.jpg Michael Aldrich George McMahon (left), Irvin Rosenfeld and Elvy Musikka, three of the four living patients, are pictured here at a 2006 conference for Patients Out of Time, a medical marijuana advocacy group. potpatient_AP11092709295.jpg AP Where does the government's marijuana come from? Mississippi, by way of a lab in North Carolina, where the weed is rolled into cigarettes. And then the steel tins are sent to Florida and Iowa. Packed inside each can is a half-pound of marijuana rolled into 300 perfectly-wrapped joints. CBS News 24/7 Featured Kentucky Derby 2026 Horses Iran War Coverage NFL Draft Grades NBA Playoff Bracket Follow Us On President Bush started this in 1978.4 people get free weed for life.The US federal government legally supplies free marijuana to a select few patients through the Compassionate Investigational New Drug (IND) program. Established in 1978, the program was closed to new applicants in 1992 but remains active to guarantee a continuous supply for the remaining survivors.The four most well-known and enduring participants in this program include:Irvin Rosenfeld: Entered the program in November 1982 to treat a rare bone tumor disorder that produces painful growths. He remains a prominent public advocate for medical cannabis.George McMahon: Began receiving shipments in March 1990 to manage Nail-Patella Syndrome (NPS), a rare genetic disorder affecting his nails, kneecaps, elbows, and joints.Elvy Musikka: A lifelong patient and activist who relies on government-grown cannabis to treat glaucoma and preserve her vision.Barbara Douglass: Another surviving member of the program who relies on the government supply to help manage severe, chronic health issues.How It Works:The Source: The government weed is grown at a federally approved facility at the University of Mississippi and rolled into joints.The Shipments: Steel tins packed with hundreds of pre-rolled joints are periodically shipped to the patients' doctors or local pharmacies.The Irony: These patients have legal, tax-funded access to the drug despite the federal government maintaining strict criminal classifications for marijuana across the country. Edited May 1 by Thomas Perkins Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 3 hours ago, Thomas Perkins said: The President cannot unilaterally legalize marijuana nationwide through a direct executive order, as only Congress can change the law. However, a president can direct executive agencies (DEA/DOJ) to reclassify marijuana or change enforcement priorities, as seen with 2025/2026 actions shifting it to a Schedule III drug, reducing penalties but not fully legalizing it. Just how much would the system save? (enforcement, holding, booking, bail, legal BS, lawyers, judges, incarceration (( including jailers, food, upkeep ect.)) parole services) if it was legalized and govt. run??? The govt. would actually MAKE money! How many are now in jail or out of jail criminals for the want and use of something less harmful than drinking? Just imagine how fucking hung over your pilot is this morning flying your plane. Naturally, more or less the same laws against drinking would also apply. I realize prisons are a big money maker but get the pot heads out and there would be more room for real criminals and illegals. With a population of 330 million there are 1.8 million prisoners in the US. China with a population of 1.4 BILLION have less, at about 1.7 million in prison. That's 4.25 times the population of the US but slightly less prisoners. Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 (edited) They are using drones everywhere to smuggle drugs,guns,phones,Tobacco in Prisons .The prison system has no funds to stop it and the Correction officers and Wardens are making it happen cause they are making money off of it.Even lawyers that come visit there clients are getting caught too.They drop it in prison yards and inmates or Officers bring it in.Prisons sre hiring.Cant get anyone to work there.My dad was in the Army 20 years and a correction officer for 17 years at a medium security prison.Also my Step brother worked there and with the Georgia Goon Squad.If they had riots at another prison in Georgia.He would go.He is a real bad ass red neck.He has since retired. Edited May 1 by Thomas Perkins Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 (edited) There’s plenty to include. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warn that cannabis users are “more likely to develop psychosis and long lasting mental disorders, including schizophrenia.” That applies especially to those “who start using cannabis at an earlier age and use cannabis products more frequently.”Who all burns one riding down the road? Edited May 1 by Thomas Perkins Quote Link to comment
frankendat Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 My drug days were excessive and abundant, but short lived. However, many of my friends continued down that road with varying degrees of problems as a result. The ones that went to powders and needles are dead or in prison, the ones who drifted away from the scene are fine, the ones that stopped everything but MJ are fine-ish. I do not care what doctors say what, people that know, who smoke on the regular, not even everyday, have most certainly lost a mental step or two, not as sharp as they once were. Granted none of us are, but a pot habit over an extended period of time (20-40 years) hammers the mind. I have seen it more than a few times. Same as a long career of even moderate drinking will hammer the liver, or a couple decades of regularly drinking soda hammers the kidneys. Green lighting pot use, provides one more pothole to navigate around, one more opportunity to fuck yourself. So I don't actively support it, no campaigning, don't vote for it, but I believe in the individual freedom of every American to fuck themselves silly, so I do not campaign against it and if there was a vote to legalize all drugs and eliminating the necessity for Dr.'s to write prescriptions, I would not only campaign for it, I would give money to support the effort. If you-re for legalizing drugs and individual freedom and accountability then be for it and quick pussy footing around 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, Thomas Perkins said: There’s plenty to include. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warn that cannabis users are “more likely to develop psychosis and long lasting mental disorders, including schizophrenia.” That applies especially to those “who start using cannabis at an earlier age and use cannabis products more frequently.”Who all burns one riding down the road? Very randomly in the late '70s early 80s then nothing for 25 years. More so the last 6 years since retiring. Hard to say what or if there is any long term effects. At my age there is probably fewer marbles for cannabis to affect. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 I had my fun with it.It has not effected my mind.The 70's.We smoked alot.That was normal.I got away from it and never will do it again.I stopped drinking in 91.I was a alcoholic.Lucky to be alive.It really is not good.Just a memory.Never got into trouble with the weed.But drinking and driving is a different story. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 34 minutes ago, Thomas Perkins said: I had my fun with it.It has not effected my mind. Hmmm sounds a lot like what you would hear in a mental asylum. BTW how much for gas at your home? Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, datzenmike said: Hmmm sounds a lot like what you would hear in a mental asylum. BTW how much for gas at your home? Yesterday, I went to Walmart and it jumped up to 3.59 a gallon.I didn't need any.It went up 40 cent.May be higher now.Your Trump is killing us.lol Quote Link to comment
bottomwatcher Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Driving this up the east coast. Gets a whopping 12 mpg on diesel. Using gas buddy helps to find the cheapest fuel. Anyways will make it to my destination Monday and will park it for a while. I think diesel now is the cheapest we will see it for a long time. Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 (edited) The Democrats’ Race-Based Regime is Collapsing What the Supreme Court has “gutted” is not the Voting Rights Act of 1965 – but a nakedly racist form of gerrymandering that spotted Democrats at least 21 House seats every cycle. Guest Author and Rod D. Martin May 2 NOTE: The Supreme Court’s long-awaited restoration of the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause with regard to racist gerrymandering has finally come. There will be consequences. The Enemedia says the Court “gutted” the Voting Rights Act. But that’s a lie. The Court actually restored its original meaning, in line with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, to prevent discrimination for or against either the minority or the majority. To Democrats, whether in their Klan hoods then, or their Antifa masks now, or their SPLC-funded Klan hoods now again, that is anathema. The reason is as simple as it was in 1895. Democrats may or may not be racists, but they certainly understand the power of race to help them win. If that means discriminating against blacks, so be it. If that means discriminating against whites, so be it. Just as the Southern planters used Jim Crow to divide poor whites from poor blacks and thus thwart the rising Populist movement, modern plantation foremen from Hakeem Jeffries to Tim Walz know identity politics and DEI short-circuits reason, stokes hate, and propels their Party to victory. And that’s the case for these 21 racially gerrymandered House districts. The lie is that whites won’t vote for blacks, so we have to give them their own districts. If that were true, in an America that’s just 12 percent black, Barack Obama could never have been elected…twice! It’s even worse than that: two-thirds of black House members are elected from districts that aren’t even racially gerrymandered. Their argument just falls flat. For daily geopolitical analysis Fox Business calls “absolutely phenomenal”, sign up as a FREE or PREMIUM Member today! But it ought to fall flat for two other reasons, one practical, the other moral. Practically, Democrats have not used this travesty to enhance black representation: they’ve used it to spot themselves 21 House seats. In an era of razor-thin majorities, that’s an extraordinary difference on every policy matter before Congress. It is one of oh so many ways Democrats have put their thumbs on the scales. It’s wrong, and it’s ending. Morally, though, the idea that only people of my race can represent me is an abomination. Do we not believe that men should be judged by the content of their characters and not the color of their skin? Well, no, actually: Democrats don’t. Having adopted their latest racist schtick, they now profess fealty to Dr. King while preaching race hate, standpoint epistemology, and everything America thought it had overcome not long before I was born. But this week, the Supreme Court overcame some of it. And the nation can begin to heal. — RDM The Democrats’ Race-Based Regime is Collapsing by Daniel McCarthy May 2, 2026 The Supreme Court’s decision this week in Louisiana v. Callais et al has inevitably drawn strong criticism. In ruling that electoral districts cannot be redefined along racial lines, the Court stands accused of “gutting” the Voting Rights Act, crippling civil-rights law, and effectively disenfranchising minority voters. But the Court’s decision was correct on the merits. It also represents a great retrenchment that’s taking place in American politics. The rules by which our political system operates have been overdue a revision — not the rules codified in the Constitution but the thicker web of precedents and practices that have served as a second constitution since the 1960s, or in some cases since the 1930s. Yesterday’s decision will have the near-term practical effect of helping Republicans fortify their position going into November’s midterm elections, improving their chances of holding onto their majority in the House of Representatives. But the long-term effect of the ruling also promises to strengthen the GOP, as the racial regime on which the Democratic Party has long depended collapses. What the Court’s Republican-appointed majority has actually “gutted” is not the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — but a nakedly racial form of gerrymandering. Louisiana had been ordered by lower courts to redraw its congressional districts to ensure that not one, but two districts would be majority-black, virtually guaranteeing that two of the state’s six members of Congress would also be black — so a third of the congressional delegation would match the roughly one-third of the state’s black population. In effect, representation by race was assumed to be more important than representation by geography or anything else. The Voting Rights Act has long been used to ensure that certain areas will have representation by one race. This racial gerrymandering, mostly adopted in the South, would apply to state legislative districts as well as federal congressional districts. It’s obvious why such a heavy-handed approach might appear reasonable in the immediate wake of segregation. More than sixty years later, however, it can’t be argued that it’s a response to discrimination because it’s now an enduring form of discrimination in its own right — in essence a set-aside or quota not in the private sector but in the legislative branch of government itself, at the state and national levels alike. This has served the Democratic party very well, not only because the black legislators elected by these black-majority districts are usually Democrats to begin with, but also because the very existence of these districts is a kind of bribe or reward Democrats provide to a loyal constituency and its leaders. It’s a racial spoils system. Now Democrats will have to make a different kind of case to black voters — indeed to all voters in districts which are no longer so racially segregated. Catch the irony — separating blacks from other voters, in order to create more majority-black districts, is a kind of segregation. The Democrats, who were the party of the white segregationists, too, came to see segregation for the sake of additional black representation as a positive good. Needless to say, in a state such as Louisiana, where the population is one-third black, perfect proportional integration of every congressional district or state legislative district would result in one-third of the voters in each district being black. That would be complete integration. It would also be politically inconvenient. In reality, of course, geography matters, and racial and other groups are not evenly distributed throughout any state. But the Supreme Court has now ruled boundaries shouldn’t be carved up just for racial reasons. The decision allows for race to be a factor when there has been clear discrimination against a group, but racially-oriented districting can no longer be a normal practice. And without that practice, Democrats will have lost the keystone to the strategy they’ve long relied on in the South. That doesn’t mean they’re finished in the region. Virginia is more “blue” than “red” overall, even though Republicans remain competitive there. North Carolina and Georgia have Republican leanings but still produce embarrassments for the GOP. The Republican “solid South” didn’t last long. Yet the loss of racial gerrymandering will be felt by Democrats long beyond this November’s midterms — which, despite the wave of non-racial gerrymandering this year, still present Republicans with high hurdles to maintaining their majority. Even if Republicans come out ahead in the tit-for-tat redistricting efforts now taking place, they may still be overcome by midterm voters who typically vote for the party not holding the White House. Yet however rough the weather Republicans are heading into in November, their long-range outlook is bright. Republican states are flourishing while big Democratic states — including the biggest, California — are losing population and major employers. The rules Democrats wrote to their own advantage in the heady days of the New Deal and Great Society are slowly being rewritten or repealed. The second constitution is giving way to something like the actual Constitution. Deep Dive: How the Deep State Subverts the Constitution, and How to Beat It Rod D. Martin · March 28, 2025 Read full story But Democrats will be prepared to write new rules for their benefit as soon as they get the chance. Look for calls to pack the Supreme Court with liberals and to make Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico into states to grow louder. The rules themselves are now stakes in the game. That’s not because Republicans are acting selfishly — at least not entirely. The more important point is that the rationales behind the norms that served Democrats so well in the 20th century are losing salience and authority, not least legal authority. Segregation in the name of fighting segregation was always a bad idea, but at one point it may have seemed like a lesser evil than letting the effects of Jim Crow linger. Sixty years on, this racial policy has long since demonstrated the limits of what it can accomplish and promises nothing new, just the perpetuation of the spoils system. What was once for many Americans a hope has become a scam. And now the Supreme Court has said it must end. — Daniel McCarthy is a columnist for The Spectator, where this article first appeared, and is the editor of Modern Age: A Conservative Review. Edited May 2 by wayno 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Everyone writes the rules that benefit them. 1 Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 (edited) Number one rule for Mankind and the intro to Pink Floyd' Song Money.Get a good job with more pay and your okay.So I did 34 years ago and still have it. Edited May 3 by Thomas Perkins Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 I got my shit together in '92. Started a career that lasted 27 years with a good company and pay. Best of all it was working outside, often in the woods. All my life up until then I didn't know I was an outside dog. 1 Quote Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Canadians & 'merikins coexisting - scary asf honestly. Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, a.d._510_n_ok said: Canadians & 'merikins coexisting - scary asf honestly. Is that where Mike lives.Asking for a few friends. Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 So who do you got your money on? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Lots of holiday trailers and double wide homes here, like everywhere. No one can afford a real home anymore. This is me and my wife's daughter on our wedding day. Threw the cheatin' bitch out ' 15 years ago cause she was messing with her cousin Earl. They live together out back in the Blazer. 2 Quote Link to comment
Thomas Perkins Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, datzenmike said: Lots of holiday trailers and double wide homes here, like everywhere. No one can afford a real home anymore. This is me and my wife's daughter on our wedding day. Threw the cheatin' bitch out ' 15 years ago cause she was messing with her cousin Earl. They live together out back in the Blazer. Is Earl and her still together?Asking for a few friends again.You cant put a trailer out here.Also you must have 2 acres and a septic tank.The neighborhoods they putting out here have very expensive homes on them.That is a good thing. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, datzenmike said: Lots of holiday trailers and double wide homes here, like everywhere. No one can afford a real home anymore. This is me and my wife's daughter on our wedding day. Threw the cheatin' bitch out ' 15 years ago cause she was messing with her cousin Earl. They live together out back in the Blazer. Here I said it again. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 I thought it would have been Puerto Rican. Maybe that's a West Coast thing 1 Quote Link to comment
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