destruction of america

[Duncan]

 

[frankendat]

1 hour ago, a.d._510_n_ok said:

 

Ouch! It is fun to watch Waltz get insulted, but is this what is expected to satisfy, us the unwashed, in lieu of any tangible justice? Taxes are crazy, the dollar is dropping, there are still plenty of Somaillis and bad actor immigrants running about, but Fallon gave Waltz a stern talking too on the TV, so let us be thankful and enjoy our shit sandwiches... 

[datzenmike]

Previous wars in Iraq were Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. In Afghanistan it's Operation Enduring Freedom and then Operation Freedom's Sentinel. Totally reasonable names for freeing the people of these oppressive regimes... but now the Iran war is called Epic Fury???? Sounds like a war to punish the Iranian populace doesn't it? Like it's everyone's fault you made us blow you and everything up. This just has to be a name from the pretentious and bombastic mind of Donald Trump 

 

 

[bananahamuck]

[Thomas Perkins]

Did ya'll know back in Hiltler days Germany was going to build the world's biggest tank.A super tank.Hilter okay'ed it.It would of held 40 soldiers.The problem was it was going to be so big that a bridge could not hold it.It would of tore up every road it traveled on.Trains could not carry it and it would have to be been driven to battle fields.Also it would of been a big target for planes.So Germany canceled it.Not Hilter.It would of weighed 100 tons.115 feet long.46 feet wide and 36 feet high.Albert Speer cancelled it.This was in 1942.

Edited Saturday at 12:03 AM by Thomas Perkins

[datzenmike]

Also used huge amounts of expensive war materials. It wouldn't have been immune to mines or shaped charges either.

[wayno]

Division, Derision and the Economics of the Thing

March 6, 2026 | Sundance | 195 Comments

Do you remember this moment during the 2015 republican presidential debates when all of the candidates were on stage and leading control outlet Fox News (Bret Baier) purposefully asked the candidates:

…”is there anyone on stage, unwilling tonight, to pledge your support to the eventual nominee of the republican party, and pledge to not run an independent campaign against that person.  Again, we are looking for you to raise your hand now if you won’t make that pledge tonight.”

[The moment in video is here] The need for control is a reaction to fear.  The question was intentionally constructed to create both an optic and a narrative Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the republican party were purposefully shaping.  Collectively the professional republicans were desperately afraid Donald Trump would run as an independent candidate.

I bring us back to that moment because it is the key to understand where we are even today.  This was the core of the matter. This is the “trillions at stake” aspect.  This is the economics of the thing as it first manifest.

Why did Donald J Trump stand against them all?

For many years before that moment, a small group of us had been outlining why it was urgent for MAGAnomics to take charge of the U.S. economy; because underneath both wings of the UniParty in Washington DC was a system that few understood.

♦ Prior to 2016, the United States Chamber of Commerce (U.S CoC), a private K-Street lobbying consortium, were the negotiators for every single trade deal done from the office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR).

The U.S. government (USTR, POTUS and Congress) was the trade stakeholder who signed the agreements; however, the actual nuts and bolts of what the trade deal included, the terms and conditions, were negotiated by the US CoC.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce represented the corporate interests of their Wall Street clients. After all, the corporations paid the CoC and the business model of the CoC is dependent on the corporations.

This is the larger background for how decades of trade agreements ended up with offshoring, the Rust Belt, diminished domestic manufacturing, and increased corporate profits. This is the core mechanics of how a U.S. manufacturing economy was shifted to a “service driven economy.”

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce was writing the trade deals. The CoC would then fund the politicians who would approve the trade deals. The CoC would also finance the presidential candidates.

When President Trump ran for office in 2016, his trade, manufacturing and economic policies were against the interests of the entire business network that controlled trade. The U.S. CoC poured money into Hillary Clinton’s campaign and their main GOP partner in the enterprise, Mitch McConnell.

When Trump won the election, he completely shut out the CoC from any involvement in U.S. trade negotiations. Trump literally put himself, Wilbur Ross, and Robert Lighthizer in control.

 

The CoC was apoplectic but powerless to stop this action. CoC President Tom Donohue could not even get an appointment to see President Trump in the White House.

The only thing the CoC and Tom Donohue could do was to fund anyone who would assist them in removing the existential threat that Trump represented. That’s what they did.

With the CoC removed from influence, President Trump, Wilbur Ross and Robert Lighthizer began the painstaking process of taking the Wall Street profit tentacles off U.S. trade policy.

In essence, President Trump put the interests of the American citizens back into the top priority of the U.S. govt, as it pertained to the biggest of all big picture items, the U.S. economy. That’s why in 2018 and 2019 the U.S. economy was on fire with growth.

All of that MAGAnomic background remained in place when President Trump retook control in 2025, and now we are starting to see the positive economic effects again resurface.  However, that collective UniParty opposition still remains, albeit significantly diminished by the refusal of President Trump to move away from America-first policy.

The core of the opposition to all of President Trump’s actions, remains almost exclusively an outcome of the economics of policy the DC system no longer controls.  It’s about the money.  It will always be about the money.  The division we are encountering in the MAGA ranks, is specifically driven by those same financial interests who opposed candidate Donald Trump a decade ago.

When it came to trade policy, economic policy, tariff policy and the confrontation with China, there was not one iota of difference between any of the 17 republican candidates in that 2016 election.

There was not one degree of divergence from the traditional corporate economic policy of the 30 years that preceded that moment on stage.  Every one of the republican candidates aligned with the CoC message.

♦ CTH had previously identified our assembly as “The Last Refuge” specifically because there was no information space, no website, no organized group, no podcast, no functional assembly who understood the basic problem and simultaneously rejected the noisy pontificating baseline notion that our status was doomed to remain as a “service driven economy.”

We rejected that notion here.  So too did Donald J Trump, and subsequently we championed him.

His intention in this MAGAnomic regard has never wavered, flinched or diminished.  President Trump has focused on delivering real, actionable economic benefits due to a radically shifted policy approach toward jobs, trade and the underlying blue-collar economy.

As President, Donald Trump has never stopped being Main Street First in all policy outcomes.

What we are witnessing now with the division, derision and conflict goes right back to that original set of policy distinctions.

In 2016 we did not use the term “influencers,” but they existed inside every team for every republican candidate.  Dick Cheney’s daughter worked for Ben Carson. Mark Levin’s son worked for Ted Cruz. The daughter of Fox News Executive Producer for Political Content, Bill Sammon, worked for Marco Rubio.

All of those campaigns and every person in the professional republican apparatus that worked inside those campaigns had one very unique thing in common, they all adhered to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce constructs of economic policy.

Not a single candidate ever mentioned China as a strategic economic threat until Donald Trump kept hammering it.  Not a single Republican ever said economic security was national security, until Donald Trump made it core policy.

Remember this core difference when you see all of these voices who backbite, bitch, complain and protest that Donald Trump is not focused enough on American interests; it’s bullshit. It is all bullshit.

Not a single republican candidate ever cared about any of this stuff until Donald J Trump made it his mission in life to fundamentally restructure the economics of everything.  This is still his primary focus, and if you watch him work you will see it unfold in the outcomes of every single policy, even the foreign policy engagements.

President Trump is delivering a global shift, a multigenerational shift, in the return of U.S. power and financial WEALTH to our nation.  And, he’s unbelievably good at it.

MAGAnomics! The rest is just noise.

 

 

Posted in Big Government, China, Donald Trump, Economy, media bias, Operation Epic Fury, President Trump, propaganda, Uncategorized, USA

[Fat510]

Didn't read because who fuggin cares. fuck israel. fuck the war. fuck the asylum seekers.

Cancel H1bs, cancel and deport H1bs and illegals. Don't accept asylum from those displaced from Israel's fucking war.

 

iran can blow up the entirety of the battlements we have there, who cares.

who fucking cares?

fuck them. 

The faster iran does that the faster we can recognize and cut off the useless parasite.

 

"Police the middle east" the boomer/older gen X says" Really? We've been doing it since the 70s 

They are the police of the middle east, yet they have yet to do anything and call us in at the minor of inconveniences while we topple any regime they find hostile to them.

Edited Saturday at 02:30 AM by Fat510

[Fat510]

And before Canadians sound off, I'll immediately invalidate them with their own government quietly accepting 60 million indians

 

shut up

Edited Saturday at 02:39 AM by Fat510

[datzenmike]

Agree, I didn't read it either. Bitching about the past? Not interested. wayno only posts anti Democrat or any GOP or anyone for that matter, critical of Trump. We should go fund me and have his lips surgically removed from Trump's ass. 

[Fat510]

25 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

Agree, I didn't read it either. Bitching about the past? Not interested. wayno only posts anti Democrat or any GOP or anyone for that matter, critical of Trump. We should go fund me and have his lips surgically removed from Trump's ass. 

 

Voting for everything up until now? we should ignore now

[Fat510]

millenials dont know how to vote. They just vote for the most bs shit set in motion 40 years prior to them being able to vote. I voted for such policies i have no one to blame for myself. they just keep voting to tax the rich, immigrants make the country better, and importing more sihk. More sihks hold offices in canada than in india

 

[tr8er]

They still support him.  Fucking wild.  

[Fat510]

maybe hildog can come back and you can vote for her.

[Fat510]

[a.d._510_n_ok]

oooooh sure! He says that ***NOW***!

[frankendat]

This is destruction of America and the abandonment of the middle class, of the workers, is destruction. I call the rise in prices of building stuff, hurtful to those who build and those who build, built this nation. I went to buy steel, like I have many times and bitched many times, on Ratsun. But hold, before dismissing this as irrelevant grumpy old man talk. 
I saddled up to buy 9 inches of 1.75 inch steel round tube and 3ft of 3 inch steel square tube, both in .25 wall. Take a stab what they wanted for it, tax and all?
$162.00

I didn't complete the sale. Half of that would have been expensive and I would have grumbled, but still purchased. $100 would have made me holler sweet jesus and I probably would have purchased. Stop and visualize how little steel I was holding and what they were asking for it. 
And this doesn't make me blame Trump anymore than it makes me blame the Democrats, I blame the whole fucking lot of them. I blame the government of the United States and the fools in power (both sides) who spend resources and lives, benefiting others, to the detriment of America. If the resources and lives of Americans are currency, which history shows they very much are, then we should command top dollar and collect what is owed.   

[datzenmike]

That's Chinese tariffs for you.  Or is it Korean? Tariffs are paid by the American importer. Eventually that has to be passed on to the consumer. So, exactly when are the companies that make steel coming back so you can make your own steel?

 

Starts a war with Iran so Epstein Files sink lower in the 'do do' pile.

[frankendat]

1 minute ago, datzenmike said:

That's Chinese tariffs for you.  Or is it Korean? Tariffs are paid by the American importer. Eventually that has to be passed on to the consumer. So, exactly when are the companies that make steel coming back so you can make your own steel?

 

Starts a war with Iran so Epstein Files sink lower in the 'do do' pile.

To prove I am not completely insane, I looked up the going rate for 1.75 Dom steel tube .25 wall, in March of 2021 (5 years ago) It was $1.10 an inch, but they didn't sell it by the inch, you had to by at least a foot. The price I just encountered is over $4 and inch. And in 2021, I thought the price of steel was getting out of hand!

There should be one or two steel makers in America, just enough to keep our toes in it and be able to make our own if the world goes to hell. American made steel should be the best in the world, at premium cost because it is premium product. Reserved for precision, high end machines. For standard everyday steel needs, imported steel, no tariffs made by 10 year olds working for a nickle a day. Why? Because I don't want to compete in the world, who's life sucks more race. My life sucks enough and I am absolutely positive there are others, in the world and even in America who have it worse. Now I will yield to a little arm twisting to aide my fellow American and give where I can, but non Americans can go fuck themselves. And since I still hold the title of "American" with some esteem, I would greatly prefer it not be slapped on every asshole that wanders in. The same as the steel, being an American should be premium. I would really like it if citizenship was dependent on 3 years in service to America as a soldier or in a civil service position. Only those who earned citizenship would be allowed to vote, own property in America, be eligible for government jobs, have the full protections of the Constitution etc. Currently, the United States of America is disparaged as an Empire and equated to Rome, but it is not. I purpose we steer into the skid and embrace becoming an Empire. The Romans had many centuries before a dramatic fall, the United States should be able to rule for at least one century and wouldn't a dramatic end be better than the slow grinding away of humanity until the deaths of millions and millions. 

[frankendat]

I found an online site that will ship the steel for $36 a foot, minimum order 3ft. That's including shipping with tax it equal a little over 3 dollars a foot, but takes 2 weeks (They didn't mention if tariffs would be added later) 

 

To put this in perspective I left the house this morning with a little over $60 in my pocket and figured I had it covered and wouldn't need to use the card.

[datzenmike]

Try a recycling or scrap yard. 

[Thomas Perkins]

My company has to go outside the USA to buy aluminum.We dont buy from China.USA does not make aluminum.So our customers and us are paying more for it now.

[datzenmike]

You probably would buy it from Canada. Now selling it to Europe who don't have tariffs.

[wayno]

21 hours ago, datzenmike said:

Agree, I didn't read it either. Bitching about the past? Not interested. wayno only posts anti Democrat or any GOP or anyone for that matter, critical of Trump. We should go fund me and have his lips surgically removed from Trump's ass. 

  Almost 6000 posts of King Rat ratshit, what a waste of our time, what is needed is a Go Fund Me for a lobotomy for Mike.

[datzenmike]

Just keeping you engaged wayno.