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10 minutes ago, tr8er said:

I wouldn’t be shocked to find out my classmate had a hand in developing this if US military scientists were behind it.  That’s all they do is fucking mutate shit to develop counter measures.  So either there is no good vaccine option or this was super new.  

 

The genetic markers for this virus was made from RNA viral agents that had already been in study. The Pfizer vaccine was based off a Covid vaccine that had been in development for more than 5 years now.. Dguy could definitely explain this in far better lay terms than I could.

 

 

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5 hours ago, tr8er said:

So much sad.  Grandmas in her death bed and can’t have visitors since March.  Imagine your last year of life without any family.  So understand my anger.  Assholes considering in higher regard their convenience over others necessity is not an expression of nationalism.  Our constitution was drafted on the blood of sacrifice by MEN who put others before themself.  Took bullets so others could own land to grow food.  But today’s men can’t dawn masks.  Quite the time we live in.  I wish my grandma could read cards herself.  Or get videos of her grandkids.  Just not really digitally set up there.  So yeah.  Kids are spending time hunting.  Fishing.  Learning four languages and finding their life with mom and dad.  Not cuz they are vulnerable.  But because our island benefits.  Our people benefit.  
Ua mau ka ea o ka aina I ka pono.  

What is it with you and your assumption that hardly anybody wears masks ? You don't even live in the states and don't see what's going on.People are masked up everywhere.Maybe you watch too much CNN ? You isolate your own kids when science tells us they're at such a low risk ? Probably more unhealthy than the virus itself.

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People who are not wearing a mask, social distancing, hand washing, avoiding groups of people etc. are no better than those self centered anti vaccination waccos. A danger to themselves and all society under the guise of 'freedom'.

 

For all those who have lost a loved one to this, just remember who started it when parking at WallMart or Cosco and thinking of buying Chinese made junk. Fuck the CCP!!!!

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          Do you really think that will ever cross their mind? All they'll be thinking about is

getting the best deal (most of the time on junk they don't really need).

         And how many Christmas presents will end up in the landfill? 

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9 hours ago, tr8er said:

So much sad.  Grandmas in her death bed and can’t have visitors since March.  Imagine your last year of life without any family.  So understand my anger.  Assholes considering in higher regard their convenience over others necessity is not an expression of nationalism.  Our constitution was drafted on the blood of sacrifice by MEN who put others before themself.  Took bullets so others could own land to grow food.  But today’s men can’t dawn masks.  Quite the time we live in.  I wish my grandma could read cards herself.  Or get videos of her grandkids.  Just not really digitally set up there.  So yeah.  Kids are spending time hunting.  Fishing.  Learning four languages and finding their life with mom and dad.  Not cuz they are vulnerable.  But because our island benefits.  Our people benefit.  
Ua mau ka ea o ka aina I ka pono.  

 

My 78yo mom took a trip to see her family & got covid. I resigned to the fact that it was better she got to see her family than never to see them again.

 

So, grandma is dying alone because of lockdown (which may or may not have lifted with more stringent adherence to mask ordinances, etc), and you blame everybody except those making the rules denying you access. Why can't you visit if she's dying regardless? You would rather she lived an extra month & die alone vs visiting with family?

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This why we should implement a tax based on life expectancy of goods.   Not a new tax, just modify sales taxes on goods so if you buy the product with the least likely hood of ending up trash you pay no tax. Buy the cheapest crap, pay double the tax.  US made would naturally benefit.  

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2 minutes ago, tr8er said:

This why we should implement a tax based on life expectancy of goods.   Not a new tax, just modify sales taxes on goods so if you buy the product with the least likely hood of ending up trash you pay no tax. Buy the cheapest crap, pay double the tax.  US made would naturally benefit.  

I saw that first sentence and thought oh no not another tax.I like this idea,i could get on board with that.I try to NOT buy cheap shit whenever possible.

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10 hours ago, tr8er said:

So much sad.  Grandmas in her death bed and can’t have visitors since March.  Imagine your last year of life without any family.  So understand my anger.  Assholes considering in higher regard their convenience over others necessity is not an expression of nationalism.  Our constitution was drafted on the blood of sacrifice by MEN who put others before themself.  Took bullets so others could own land to grow food.  But today’s men can’t dawn masks.  Quite the time we live in.  I wish my grandma could read cards herself.  Or get videos of her grandkids.  Just not really digitally set up there.  So yeah.  Kids are spending time hunting.  Fishing.  Learning four languages and finding their life with mom and dad.  Not cuz they are vulnerable.  But because our island benefits.  Our people benefit.  
Ua mau ka ea o ka aina I ka pono.  

 

1 hour ago, thisismatt said:

 

My 78yo mom took a trip to see her family & got covid. I resigned to the fact that it was better she got to see her family than never to see them again.

 

So, grandma is dying alone because of lockdown (which may or may not have lifted with more stringent adherence to mask ordinances, etc), and you blame everybody except those making the rules denying you access. Why can't you visit if she's dying regardless? You would rather she lived an extra month & die alone vs visiting with family?

 

You don't have Skype or any other means of electronic visiting? Not perfect but better than nothing.

 

5 hours ago, john510 said:

What is it with you and your assumption that hardly anybody wears masks ? You don't even live in the states and don't see what's going on.People are masked up everywhere.Maybe you watch too much CNN ? You isolate your own kids when science tells us they're at such a low risk ? Probably more unhealthy than the virus itself.

 

Oh you might wear them NOW..... but it was like pulling teeth to get any co-operation. Your president refused to set a good example and believe in the science. If there had been masks, social distancing, more hand washing and avoiding large gatherings there probably would be no need for any closures. Without the closures people wouldn't be so against everything. If the body count was 100K right now someone would still be bitching about measures not working and it was a waste of time. Bang up job America. Worst place in the world for Wu Flu

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37 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 

 

You don't have Skype or any other means of electronic visiting? Not perfect but better than nothing.

 

 

Oh you might wear them NOW..... but it was like pulling teeth to get any co-operation. Your president refused to set a good example and believe in the science. If there had been masks, social distancing, more hand washing and avoiding large gatherings there probably would be no need for any closures. Without the closures people wouldn't be so against everything. If the body count was 100K right now someone would still be bitching about measures not working and it was a waste of time. Bang up job America. Worst place in the world for Wu Flu

I call bullshit,

 

If compare numbers to other countries that have 10% of the population of the U.S, then bullshit. 

 

If you compare to countries that have similar or more population, but is run by a totalitarian gov. That fabricates all information. Then bullshit. 

 

If you compare to countries where half the people are in less than poverty conditions and who's lives dont really matter to the gov. In the first place. Then bullshit. 

 

The numbers from all these sources are bullshit. 

 

Australia did well because it is isolated, has fuck all people and we are spread out.

 

Hawaii did well because it's isolated. And has fuck all people. 

 

The same person raving about how shit America dealt with it is then saying it was already in America in 2019, well before any masks were mandated. Plenty of time to get a good toe hold. 

It is all bullshit. The numbers are, the masks are, the lockdowns are. It is a virus with some 98% survival rate and we have destroyed millions of lively hoods some twat can spruke his virtousness about face masks. 

 

If you spend 20yrs making the majority of your population the unhealthiest in the world by feeding them the cheapest nastiest processed shit you can then let loose a virus that kills unhealthy people. Then your numbers are bullshit. 

 

I call bullshit on the whole lot. Follow the money and power, that is the real issue. 

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1 hour ago, datzenmike said:

 

 

You don't have Skype or any other means of electronic visiting? Not perfect but better than nothing.

 

 

Oh you might wear them NOW..... but it was like pulling teeth to get any co-operation. Your president refused to set a good example and believe in the science. If there had been masks, social distancing, more hand washing and avoiding large gatherings there probably would be no need for any closures. Without the closures people wouldn't be so against everything. If the body count was 100K right now someone would still be bitching about measures not working and it was a waste of time. Bang up job America. Worst place in the world for Wu Flu

Another clueless opinion from someone that doesn't even live in the states.Covid has spiked again but only in America right ? Wrong,it's happening everywhere.If i believe everything science says will Covid just disappear ? Stay under that rock where it's safe.

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 You said almost everyone wearing masks. I said they are now but you sure weren't nor did your president help the matter when he could have. I stand by this.

 

Never said anything about it spiking only in US. 

 

Disappear? Define disappear.... like gone completely? like small pox eradicated? I guess possible but co-vid isn't as lethal so I doubt there will be a big rush for this with a vaccine available. Never said I lived under a rock... said I live under a bridge.

 

BTW by definition an opinion can't be clueless.

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4 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 You said almost everyone wearing masks. I said they are now but you sure weren't nor did your president help the matter when he could have. I stand by this.

 

Never said anything about it spiking only in US. 

 

Disappear? Define disappear.... like gone completely? like small pox eradicated? I guess possible but co-vid isn't as lethal so I doubt there will be a big rush for this with a vaccine available. Never said I lived under a rock... said I live under a bridge.

 

BTW by definition an opinion can't be clueless.

How would you know i wasn't wearing a mask when required ? I was and still do.Do i like it ? hell no.While at home,no.Driving,no.Public places of course,it's required if you want to go in.Been that way for quite some time.The clueless opinion ? How can you have an opinion about what goes on here of you don't even live here ? I can't give an opinion on what goes on in Canada,i haven't actually been there to see what's going on.You seem to have a problem with America as if this country is at fault for a worldwide issue.Remember where this crap started ? Don't point the finger at us because the world hasn't controlled anything.And who the hell listened to Trump anyway ? If he told us all to wear masks his haters wouldn't wear them because he said to.

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20 minutes ago, john510 said:

How would you know i wasn't wearing a mask when required ? I was and still do.Do i like it ? hell no.While at home,no.Driving,no.Public places of course,it's required if you want to go in.Been that way for quite some time.  

 

I have no idea if you do or not wear a mask it never came up, nor did I say I did.

 

 

20 minutes ago, john510 said:

The clueless opinion ? How can you have an opinion about what goes on here of you don't even live here ? I can't give an opinion on what goes on in Canada,i haven't actually been there to see what's going on.

 

opinion:  a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. So yes indeed you can have an opinion on what goes on in socialist medicine Canada.

 

 

23 minutes ago, john510 said:

You seem to have a problem with America as if this country is at fault for a worldwide issue.Remember where this crap started ? Don't point the finger at us because the world hasn't controlled anything.And who the hell listened to Trump anyway ? If he told us all to wear masks his haters wouldn't wear them because he said to.


Not at all. I know exactly where the fault lies for the Wu Flu. I did and do however point the finger at deficiencies and missed opportunities in handling it and complacency and apathy by the public. The last 6 months could have been more constructive and informative but instead, disjointed and a lack of unity. We all could have been practicing for today instead of playing catch up.     

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All I really believe now is what I see. Wife and I are in Ashville NC. We are at a gathering with two other family units. All three wives posses master degrees in biology and one is a scientist for the CDC.  Here are the rules at our gathering. Each family rents their own cabin and we do not enter each others cabin. We mask up when together and all the dishes we cook go on the tables we have set up outside. Each family unit fills their plates masked and we sit down at distanced tables before unmasking and eating. Sounds crazy but it actually works fine and we had a good dinner enjoying each others company at low risk. Getting this may be low risk of dying but a high risk of complications or lingering effects and all of us would be devastated if we passed this on to people we cared about, but I guess that is just us. There is another family group at these cabins that number about 20 staying in different cabins but loading up in one of about 600 square feet when it got dark and cool. Their decision and risk and I wish them the best but this is just a microcosm of what is playing out around the world. It doesn't matter who is president now this crap is just going to run its course whoever's in charge. Best to just look after yourselves because your own actions will determine your outcome in this pandemic.

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