a.d._510_n_ok Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 CNN's Leana Wen: 'Cloth Masks Are Little More Than Facial Decorations' https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/ Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 .... a fashion accessory. Like yoga pants and a plastic Aquafina water bottle. 1 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 hours ago, a.d._510_n_ok said: CDC Says it Overestimated Omicron Spread by Over 200 Percent The CDC overestimated how widespread the Omicron variant would be, according to a new report. The agency reported December 20 that 73 percent of COVID cases in the United States were Omicron, up from just 0.7 percent two weeks prior. Now, that number has been revised down to 22.5 percent, the Daily Caller reports. https://humanevents.com/2021/12/28/cdc-says-it-overestimated-omicron-spread-by-over-200-percent/ Are they now claiming this because they realized Omicron is NOT nearly as serious ? They had to go back to the Delta variant to keep the ball rolling ? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 I think the Omicron is massively more transmissible and probably has less symptoms and much less deadly. By the time it was discovered it was likely half way around the world already. When they say a surge, it's really the Omicron that is driving the surge not the Delta one. If true and I don't see why not then the sooner we all get it and get over it the sooner we have acquired immunity. Immunity from Omicron I believe also gives immunity from Delta, the bad one. The whole reason for existence of a virus is to replicate. If you don't spread easily or kill your host then this is counter productive. Quote Link to comment
jbirds510 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) It's nice to see the flu is making a reappearance after being gone all this time...Watchin the news now feels like re runs. Edited December 29, 2021 by jbirds510 2 Quote Link to comment
bottomwatcher Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 8 hours ago, datzenmike said: I think the Omicron is massively more transmissible and probably has less symptoms and much less deadly. By the time it was discovered it was likely half way around the world already. When they say a surge, it's really the Omicron that is driving the surge not the Delta one. If true and I don't see why not then the sooner we all get it and get over it the sooner we have acquired immunity. Immunity from Omicron I believe also gives immunity from Delta, the bad one. The whole reason for existence of a virus is to replicate. If you don't spread easily or kill your host then this is counter productive. The thing is there really seems to be no immunity. Apparently the vaccines don't seem to provide immunity and people who already have covid seem to be able get it again. This craps here for good. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Well it could be like the flu shot. It doesn't always prevent it, just lessens it. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 13 hours ago, jbirds510 said: It's nice to see the flu is making a reappearance after being gone all this time...Watchin the news now feels like re runs. It 'disappeared' because people were distancing, washing hands, wearing masks...... who would have thought that that was all you had to do??????? Well in most work place washrooms is a sign saying exactly that, but who does it???? Co-vid got rid of the common cold and flu, or almost, just from these simple 3 things. Co-vid may eventually end up about on par with the flu and the cold, an annoyance that comes around every winter. Quote Link to comment
jbirds510 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, datzenmike said: It 'disappeared' because people were distancing, washing hands, wearing masks...... who would have thought that that was all you had to do??????? Well in most work place washrooms is a sign saying exactly that, but who does it???? Co-vid got rid of the common cold and flu, or almost, just from these simple 3 things. Co-vid may eventually end up about on par with the flu and the cold, an annoyance that comes around every winter. Was the sarcasm lost? Coronaviridae, genus Betacoronavirus….flu. Edited December 29, 2021 by jbirds510 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Apparently. Quote Link to comment
Dguy210 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Antigenic Original Sin and Antibody Dependent Enhancement: I choose you! Or: Why using leaky vaccines causes shit to get worse, i.e., things we already knew before all this happened. Short form, data coming out showing the vaxxed do worse when challenged by new variants. To the point of NEGATIVE vaccine efficacy, i.e., those who where vaccinated did worse than the unvaxxed. This puts you on a treadmill of needing a booster every month or so to stay "protected" as the effectiveness is only good for a short time (couple of months) and then drops to being WORSE. Of course no pharma company would ever set it up so that you have to take their product forever.... oh wait. https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-vaccines https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/adhocs/14107coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyukcharacteristicsrelatedtohavinganomicroncompatibleresultinthosewhotestpositiveforcovid19 https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/22/triple-vaccinated-more-than-four-times-more-likely-to-test-positive-for-omicron-than-unvaccinated-data-shows/ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3 But wait there's more: Edited December 30, 2021 by Dguy210 2 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 All well and good but what would lack of effectiveness against Omicron matter it it is so much more benign that the Delta??? A better defense would be no defense, get it and get over it. Quote Link to comment
jbirds510 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dguy210 said: Antigenic Original Sin and Antibody Dependent Enhancement: I choose you! Or: Why using leaky vaccines causes shit to get worse, i.e., things we already knew before all this happened. Short form, data coming out showing the vaxxed do worse when challenged by new variants. To the point of NEGATIVE vaccine efficacy, i.e., those who where vaccinated did worse than the unvaxxed. This puts you on a treadmill of needing a booster every month or so to stay "protected" as the effectiveness is only good for a short time (couple of months) and then drops to being WORSE. Of course no pharma company would ever set it up so that you have to take their product forever.... oh wait. https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-vaccines https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/adhocs/14107coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyukcharacteristicsrelatedtohavinganomicroncompatibleresultinthosewhotestpositiveforcovid19 https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/22/triple-vaccinated-more-than-four-times-more-likely-to-test-positive-for-omicron-than-unvaccinated-data-shows/ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3 But wait there's more: IgG suppression, The big question now is how will these findings effect (alpha) HCoV-229E, -NL63, (beta) -OC43, and -HKU1 ? Not to mention future potential Susceptibility to zoonotics, delta and gama (GTEV)(BCoV)(FCoV)? Are we headed toward a Mareks disease type scenario? Pondering. Thank goodness there's always LY-CoV555 for leverage against the potential worst case scenario. Edited December 30, 2021 by jbirds510 Quote Link to comment
Dav Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Lions not sheep: Bob Enyart Phil Valentine Marc Bernier Dick Farrel Robert David Steele Pressley Stutts Caleb Wallace Robert Fransman Quote Link to comment
Dav Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Monkey found funny Please ignore if you got angry 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Laughable actually. If intentional... well done Dav. Who made that up???? How ingenuous that if you don't believe this 'confirmation bias' then you are suffering from a mental defect called confirmation bias. What is it called posting 'stuff' on the internet passed off as fact without the slightest attempt to quote or provide a source???? Are you in that "advanced age" posting bracket? "the well known..." "it is also clear from research that...." "some researchers have found...." "others say..." "affirmed by social scientists, scholars of propaganda and neuroscientists..." Kind of reads like National Enquirer Quote Link to comment
Dav Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just found randomly on the interwebs -my mouse is interconnected wit my Ouija board. I really don’t move it, it moves me. Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Is Dav trolling again ? Mike,the Enquirer is probably much more trustworthy than a lot of news sources nowadays. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 True. I think the CIA uses the National Enquirer now rather than CNN to keep up on what's going on in the world. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 hours ago, datzenmike said: True. I think the CIA uses the National Enquirer now rather than CNN to keep up on what's going on in the world. That's what "J" & "K" said. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 I hacked the tele-prompter so don't go by what they say. Quote Link to comment
iceman510 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 6:34 PM, Dav said: OK - what does that mean? It means that if they want to do and claim "science", they should learn how to do it. Quote Link to comment
iceman510 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 4:07 PM, Dav said: Did it run its course and end in October 2020? No. Hell, it has not run its course over a year later. While you of course to make your point, deliberately misconstrue what he said and make the false equating of the date he said it to an end date. How factual of you. Quote Link to comment
iceman510 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/28/2021 at 9:33 AM, datzenmike said: What's wrong with cats you racist prick???? Some of my best friends are cats. Edited December 31, 2021 by iceman510 1 2 Quote Link to comment
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