rowen01960 Posted September 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 It kind of depends on what is being developed ... the 620/720 frame is purely a tech demonstrator. The same tech (materials/process) can also be applied to the Titan XD or SPL310 (WIP/todo list). Full BIW are also on the list although throughput takt time is higher (10mm/min built height limit). The ability to quickly produce a digitally customized Product without downstream Form Specific tooling adjustment is the key factor. There are no OEM/Brand/Model specific restraints... if it can be accurately modeled, it can be accurately reproduced with vigorous control of constituent materials and machine maintenance. So Purchasing Managers of materials/maintenance cannot be sole signatories to POs 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 https://www.affiliateresources.org/pdf/ConsequencesErudite.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 Don't scare him off Mike. This is cool enough to see it through. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 One possible problem uncovered during the dune buggy era with California DMV and registration. If you build a vehicle no matter what age design and use a new frame, the vehicle must include all smog and safety upgrades applicable to the model year in which the new frame was manufactured, not the model year of the design. So you would have to register a 2019 520 Datsun for example. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 It's the case of grandpa's axe. If you replace the frame out of necessity, then it can be considered a replacement part. If you must have a VIN applied to the new frame (for whatever reason) you can simply have it inspected and then certified. You could probably stamp your own VIN into the frame and play dumb if the question ever arises. Think of all the companies like Art Morrison, The Roadster Shop, Chris Alston Chassis Works, Fatman Fabrication, etc who make new frames for old muscle cars, hot rods and trucks. None of those guys ever have to get a new VIN. I would call this a non-issue. The only place I could see it coming into play is if you were manufacturing new vehicles using this new frame, like the dune buggy, but even then, most states either don't care or have some kind of lottery. 1 Quote Link to comment
nl320what Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 I would buy a Datsun re-pop frame if it was lightweight and setup for stock body mounts with front rack and pinion and rear 4 links predone. There are more 620/720 trucks out there to make more use of this I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 11:29 AM, rowen01960 said: And for those Cost Nay Sayers ... 🙂 current RC (Recurring Cost) is between 50-75$/kg of post-cured net printed product (programming $ excluded). The variance is due to specific reinforcement materials/forms. So if the 'new' 620 frame is just 22 pounds that's $1,100 to $1,550 ( (programming $ excluded)) and I assume profit margin and shipping. Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) On 9/9/2019 at 10:18 AM, Stoffregen Motorsports said: I would call this a non-issue. The only place I could see it coming into play is if you were manufacturing new vehicles using this new frame, like the dune buggy, but even then, most states either don't care or have some kind of lottery. Like the Cobra frames "found" by Carol Shelby in the desert? He made new frames and lied about their age. He even let them "age" to show some wear from "storage". Edited September 19, 2019 by MikeRL411 typo 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 This project doesn't seem realistic. I barely grasp the OP's motivation, and the end product seems outlandish. Maybe it's just an exercise? 1 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 The results of my outlandish exercise... so far. Just the front bit anyways. :) Not really sure about the anything yet just trying to connect the dots, then I have figure out how to make it easy to make lol Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Stoffregen Motorsports said: This project doesn't seem realistic. I barely grasp the OP's motivation, and the end product seems outlandish. Maybe it's just an exercise? Datsun and economical are almost interchangeable. Owners even more so. Frames??????? who replaces their frame without first welding it up??? Now if this was about body parts, door skins, panels, hoods, fenders... stuff easily damaged and in big demand, it would make much more sense. But at $50- $75 a kilo????? I could barely grasp the big $2 words. I think it was for a social studies research paper on gear head gullibility. 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Yeah, I never saw this as a valuable option for Datsun owners. I would be surprised to ever hear from the OP again. Quote Link to comment
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