411 Seat Belt Options?

[derekg]

Howdy, my 66 sedan has some hokey PO straps bolted to the rear floor. Does anyone have good pics of the stock seat belts for the sedan? Any idea of donors or choices?

 

Thanks, Derek

[MikeRL411]

The rear floor attach points for the 411 front seat belts is factory stock.

[Kenmataya]

I'm not sure they were a thing - I have belts in my wagon, but they're just bolted into the sheet metal.  I believe they will be the same as the roadster, chrome with tan inserts.

[MikeRL411]

The insert generally has the same color as the main part of the metal dash front.   See my RL411 at the JCCS for confirmation of factory attach points and Arizona Hit Man's WRL411 for any differences between the sedan and wagon.

[Datsun Dude]

Need a shoulder harness or my sig other won't ride with me. Any ideas?

[G-Duax]

Tell her that thousands of people survived crashes with just lap belts, a lot more than people who rode in the pre- seat belt era.

Or buy her a giant teddy bear to put on her lap.

 

In all seriousness, it has been 35 years since I owned a 411, and don't remember if there are any bolt points on the B pillar to attach shoulder belts to....

[MikeRL411]

17 hours ago, G-Duax said:

Tell her that thousands of people survived crashes with just lap belts, a lot more than people who rode in the pre- seat belt era.

Or buy her a giant teddy bear to put on her lap.

 

In all seriousness, it has been 35 years since I owned a 411, and don't remember if there are any bolt points on the B pillar to attach shoulder belts to....

 

Don't know and unwilling to tear my RL411 apart out of curiosity.  That being said, some 411 were sold by dealers as 1968 models which by  law were required to have shoulder belts so the attach points may well be hidden in the post between the front and rear doors.

[Datsun Dude]

I'll probe around.

[Crashtd420]

If the vehicle doesnt have the nut for a bolt you can add it....

 

https://www.wescoperformance.com/retrofit-seat-belts-shoulder-mt-door.html

[Datsun Dude]

Have heard you need to weld a pick point into the roof. John Lorio has done this, I think.

[KELMO]

14 hours ago, Datsun Dude said:

Have heard you need to weld a pick point into the roof. John Lorio has done this, I think.

Do you know which car he did it on? It would almost have to be his SSS

[MikeRL411]

20 hours ago, Datsun Dude said:

Have heard you need to weld a pick point into the roof. John Lorio has done this, I think.

 

The roof ??????????  The roof is only held on by spot welds in the rain gutter.  The attach point for any shoulder belts should be the B pillar between the front and rear doors.

[jfbrink]

 

I dug into search and found that my post on adding 3-point belts was not as informative as I had hoped, but it does show the aesthetics:

 

 

The install is not hard to do. Buy 2 or four of WesCo's 3-point retractable with chrome release:

 

https://www.wescoperformance.com/3-point-seat-belt-chrome-retr.html

 

And 2 or four of their 3-point retractable hardware kit:

 

https://www.wescoperformance.com/3poremokit.html

 

Remove the B-pillar trim and mount the WestCo upper plate as shown. Not sure why this insists on displaying rotated. Note the two pop rivets for holding it in place. Not 100% necessary, but handy:

 

 

Mount the lower L bracket to the floor, an inch or more behind the centerline of the B-pillar to allow the seat to go all the way back. Note I mounted the reel to the upper part of the L and the tongue to the lower part of the L:

 

 

Here is a view of the underside of the reel mounting, inexplicably rotated 180 degrees:

 

 

I've been using these in my sedan and wagon for many years. The rears are a bit trickier in both cars.

 

Jesse.