Right to repair

[125 CSL]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a25246/right-to-repair-legislation-under-fire-in-nebraska/ 

 

 

This is something to watch to see how it comes down. If Apple/John Deer can keep 3rd party repair shops from working on these products.

  "Right to Repair" is legislation that would require Apple and other electronics manufacturers to sell repair parts to consumers and independent repair shops. On top of that, the laws would require manufacturers to make diagnostic and service manuals available to the public.

 

 

 

[240zness]

Good legislation, apple is a great example

[q-tip]

Fuck apple.

[Ratwagon1600]

Fuck apple.

Yep, RW is with Q on this one.

[Draker]

But, Steve Jobs was the GOAT.........

[125 CSL]

the automakers agreement is from 2014.

 

http://www.autonews.com/article/20140125/RETAIL05/301279936/automakers-agree-to-right-to-repair-deal  

 

I am sure if this goes down on Apples side then this will change.

[125 CSL]

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware

 

 

"A license agreement John Deere required farmers to sign in October forbids nearly all repair and modification to farming equipment, and prevents farmers from suing for "crop loss, lost profits, loss of goodwill, loss of use of equipment … arising from the performance or non-performance of any aspect of the software." The agreement applies to anyone who turns the key or otherwise uses a John Deere tractor with embedded software. It means that only John Deere dealerships and "authorized" repair shops can work on newer tractors"

 

I can tell you I would not ever buy a John Deere. Tractor breaks down and the dealership can not get to it for a month, and you can not suing for crop loss or lost profits,...

The article is about how US farmers are hooking up with Ukraine to get the software to fix Deere tractors.

 

and this

"Deere charges $230, plus $130 an hour for a technician to drive out and plug a connector into their USB port to authorize the part."

[125 CSL]

..........here is an interesting up date in a ruling from the SC

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/05/31/how-a-supreme-court-ruling-on-printer-cartridges-changes-what-it-means-to-buy-almost-anything/?utm_term=.a9b14b51b541

 

 

"How a Supreme Court ruling on printer cartridges changes what it means to buy almost anything"

 

The case, Lexmark vs Impression Products. a company that refills toner/ink cartridges

 

"the Court said, a company such as Lexmark can't try to use patent law to stop other companies, such as Impression, from reselling its old cartridges"

 

 

 

Where it fits into existing topic is when you buy something do you really own it.

 

"Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. used an analogy:

Take a shop that restores and sells used cars. The business works because the shop can rest assured that, so long as those bringing in the cars own them, the shop is free to repair and resell those vehicles. That smooth flow of commerce would sputter if companies that make the thousands of parts that go into a vehicle could keep their patent rights after the first sale."

 

Which is kind of where all of us come into the picture.

[Racer X 69]

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware

 

 

"A license agreement John Deere required farmers to sign in October forbids nearly all repair and modification to farming equipment, and prevents farmers from suing for "crop loss, lost profits, loss of goodwill, loss of use of equipment … arising from the performance or non-performance of any aspect of the software." The agreement applies to anyone who turns the key or otherwise uses a John Deere tractor with embedded software. It means that only John Deere dealerships and "authorized" repair shops can work on newer tractors"

 

I can tell you I would not ever buy a John Deere. Tractor breaks down and the dealership can not get to it for a month, and you can not suing for crop loss or lost profits,...

The article is about how US farmers are hooking up with Ukraine to get the software to fix Deere tractors.

 

and this

"Deere charges $230, plus $130 an hour for a technician to drive out and plug a connector into their USB port to authorize the part."

 

 

There is only one good place for a Deere.

 

A Deere Where It Belongs by Racer, on Flickr