Charlie69 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Try the 720 plastic sills. Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Then aluminum pieces didn't fit mine either, they were not made to cover something so thick, the original seal was only a 1/16" thick on each side, 1/8" total, about 3/16" total with the seam, these newer seals are very thick with the pinch part that holds them in position. I think if you modify the aluminum piece it will not cover the area you want it to cover as there will not be enough material to go all the way over, I think it likely will get bent from dragging your foot across the sill and catching the edge when getting in, maybe you could raise the piece higher but you would have to do it the full length and then drill new holes higher to mount it, plus you need to think about how much the pinch area will push the aluminum piece out away from the side being it is so thick, it's just a can of worms unless you use a seal like the original. All I care about is that I don't have a leak/wind noise, it's all about function for me, My 520 and all my 521's are not original anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 I just thought of something, what if you were to cut the inside of the pinch part off where the aluminum piece is only and use weather strip adhesive to hold the gasket in place along with the aluminum piece, the rest of the way around you will need to use the pinch part to hold it in position, just an idea I came up with just now, don't know if it will work, but I am assuming you will have enough extra seal to a 4" test spot. 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 I'llI do have some extra to play around with, I'll give that a try this weekend and see what I can figure out... the one I bought the welt seal does fit inside and is not too thick, but is a bit square versus the radius in the aluminum... I'm also debating on where to put the cut ends of the seal.... I originally intended on putting it in the middle on the bottom edge, but then I thought about the upper corner that is kind of square.... I might try that and see what I can come up with.... 1 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Maybe cut half the welting off so the sill still pinches half of it 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, thisismatt said: Maybe cut half the welting off so the sill still pinches half of it I think that's what wayno was suggesting..... 1 Quote Link to comment
Greaser2 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 I may just leave as is. Or maybe trim off most of the rounded then down (outside) edge of the sill. 2 Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Crashtd420 said: I'llI do have some extra to play around with, I'll give that a try this weekend and see what I can figure out... the one I bought the welt seal does fit inside and is not too thick, but is a bit square versus the radius in the aluminum... I'm also debating on where to put the cut ends of the seal.... I originally intended on putting it in the middle on the bottom edge, but then I thought about the upper corner that is kind of square.... I might try that and see what I can come up with.... I cut mine at a 45 degree angle in the top rear corner, I tried to make it look good, some might do it and then super glue the ends together like they do windshield gaskets. 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, wayno said: I cut mine at a 45 degree angle in the top rear corner, I tried to make it look good, some might do it and then super glue the ends together like they do windshield gaskets. That's kind of what I'm thinking... I have a little extra I'm going to experiment with... 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Another package arrived.... Crossmembers... Layed everthing out in the basement ... The watts link is a new design, pretty sweet..... I got some work to do now.... 3 Quote Link to comment
demo243 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Excited for this! Edited March 19, 2020 by demo243 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, demo243 said: Excited for this! Me too..... I have some research ahead of me... I know what qa1 coilovers I'm going to use just trying to understand the springs.... I believe it was recommended 7" at 400- 450 spring rate.... 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Crashtd420 said: Me too..... I have some research ahead of me... I know what qa1 coilovers I'm going to use just trying to understand the springs.... I believe it was recommended 7" at 400- 450 spring rate.... Tanker has QA1 IIRC, maybe ask him what he is using? 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Yes I believe so..... I was actually going to hit him up about what he's running... haven't gotten around to it.... With everything going on right now I figured I should hang on to my spare cash.... but then again I may get some extra time at home if things get worse... So having them on hand might be good to.... 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Well I mine as well start this line of questions.... These are the coilovers I'm looking at... they have a non adjustable style and these are only a few dollars more.... Not really much of a question there.... But there are 2 different mounts... Bearing Or bushing Same price but what's the difference, what would be better.... 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Would this be good to purchase ? Is it only really needed if constantly raising and lower, which I won't be doing.... set it and forget it. . But I need the wrenches.... these are 40 and just the wrenches are 25 so I might just get them regardless... Edited March 19, 2020 by Crashtd420 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 And last what's the difference in these springs.... I can get both In what ever spring rate i want.... recommended is 400-450 But the high travel is the only one i can get at 7 inches.... which is recommended for the coilover I want... 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 On street driven vehicles, I prefer poly bushings on the ends. The spherical balls get clunky and wear after exposed to the elements for a while. Yes, they are stainless or better, but they get grit in them and wear ever so slightly. On the other hand, poly bushing on a coilover support the weight of the vehicle. They need to be firm or they will wear out completely causing major clunks. I am sure these shock manufacturers have figured that out and have addressed the quality of the polyurethane they use, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Spanner is a must for adjusting coilovers. Thrust bearings may prematurely wear in harsh climates. Springs with fewer coils will allow more travel. Measure the travel you need and then measure the wire diameter. Divide the travel distance by the wire diameter and figure out how many coils you can have in the spring and maintain your desired travel. 2 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I have been reading the debate between the bushing or the bearing.... seem like bushings are what I want for a daily driver... I'm thinking the high travel spring is what I want based on some other builds and stuff I read... plus the other spring isnt offered in 7 inches.... 7 was the recommended spring height from qa1.... And I'll probably skip the thrust washers and just get the wrenches..... 2 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 You may also consider a progressive rate coil, for combined comfort and performance. 2 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 You don't need to buy QA1 coils. Eibach has a massive selection. Check out their guide here - https://eibach.com/us/rt-2-catalog-downloads.html 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I will see what's available ... What about spring rate in general? Front was recommended about 400-450... I saw another build same setup running 450 up front and only 250 in the rear.... this was a d21, so i was thinking maybe only 400 for the front..... 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I like soft springs and stiff roll bars. Remember, springs are cheap and you can change them. Click on the "complete motorsport catalog" on the Eibach link. 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Stoffregen Motorsports said: I like soft springs and stiff roll bars. Remember, springs are cheap and you can change them. Click on the "complete motorsport catalog" on the Eibach link. I know very little about all this.... I'm looking at all their stuff now.... 2 Quote Link to comment
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