bagged_datsun Posted October 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 update! i have convinced my girlfriend to get me the mega squirt and relay board for Christmas :lol:and i will be ordering the itb's in the next day or so im think any on of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-2004-GSXR1000-THROTTLE-BODIES-GSX-R1000-GSXR-1000_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1234Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem170269719058QQitemZ170269719058 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-06-Suzuki-GSXR-1000-Throttle-Bodies-GSXR1000_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1234Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem190258626496QQitemZ190258626496 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-Suzuki-GSXR-600-Throttle-Body_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1234Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem300265182067QQitemZ300265182067 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-GSXR-600-750-BODY-THROTTLE-CARB-AIR-BOX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1234Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem280275673766QQitemZ280275673766 Quote Link to comment
bagged_datsun Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 well i won my ebay action today and now i am the proud owner of a set of gsxr 1000 throttle bodies also made another pulley today and i have one more to make and i will be getting the stuff to make at least 2 more after that so if you want an EDIS kit let me know hears a test fit on my engine Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 looks good i would like a edis set up but cant afford one :( Quote Link to comment
slodat Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 the key to the "kit" part is making a VR sensor bracket to go with it. At that point, you can clock the 36-1 wheel on the crank pulley correctly and really make it a "kit". Quote Link to comment
bagged_datsun Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 the key to the "kit" part is making a VR sensor bracket to go with it. At that point, you can clock the 36-1 wheel on the crank pulley correctly and really make it a "kit". yeah when i get my mount made then maybe i can also include that but as of right now i just have the L pulley that i modify and the edis ring you press on where you need it Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 How is the advance achieved? Surely you can't just plug it in and go, what about the off idle advance? Quote Link to comment
bagged_datsun Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 How is the advance achieved? Surely you can't just plug it in and go, what about the off idle advance? you ether need a megasquirt or one of these for 80 bucks http://www.autosportlabs.com/-c-1.html Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Since I'm not a motor guy.......I'm guessing the MAP version is a bit more accurate than the TPS one? That will account for barometric changes from weather and altitude that the tps won't??? Is that a correct assumption? :) Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ...oh...and thanks for the link!! I've got the stuff for edis.....except the $300 for the megasquirt! :) this one is a lot more reasonable! Quote Link to comment
bagged_datsun Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Since I'm not a motor guy.......I'm guessing the MAP version is a bit more accurate than the TPS one? That will account for barometric changes from weather and altitude that the tps won't??? Is that a correct assumption? :) yes unless you have a big cam and a lopey idle and don't create enough vacuum at idle then you need the other one no problem for the link it is what first got me interested in edis seeing how cheap it was :cool: Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Thanks. Have you come across any recommendations for donor map sensors? Quote Link to comment
bagged_datsun Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Thanks. Have you come across any recommendations for donor map sensors? i haven't really looked into it, but i would assume a ford on, but i am sure anyone can be used with it you just have to get the ohms right Quote Link to comment
Duke Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Thanks. Have you come across any recommendations for donor map sensors? If you look on the site with the megajolt modules, the kit comes with either a MAP sensor or a TPS. There is also a link on there with some very interesting info on the difference between the two. Quote Link to comment
Jester Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Looking at how much power some of the guys are getting with the Megasquirt and edis system, I REALLY WANT ONE. I just start reading this type of stuff and think WHAT THE HELL AM I THINKING? This is WAY above my head.:blink: I think I'll just stick with the Weber or some SU's. :D Quote Link to comment
slodat Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 If you are only planning on running spark, MegaJolt is the way to go. I know of at least one built LZ with 46mm SU's and the MegaJolt/EDIS setup on it. I loved the EDIS/MegaSquirt on my car. Having complete control over your ignition is huge when tuning your car. Quote Link to comment
Fineline Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Provided you have the missing tooth in the right place the EDIS will run in "limp home" mode or failsafe. 10 degrees BTDC. You dont necissarily need a megasquirt or megajolt but to get any timing you will have to run 30+ degrees at idle because you will get no advance. The megasquirt still uses a TPS for acceleration enrichments as does the MAS air systems. You can run a MAP system without the TPS you will just get the sluggish stumble as you stab the throttle. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 So....for the megajolt units for standalone edis, do you recommend the tps version? Quote Link to comment
Fineline Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) So....for the megajolt units for standalone edis, do you recommend the tps version? I am not familiar with the Megajolt but I dont see a need for it to have a TPS. Are you sure they need one? All the systems that I have seen that have a TPS controll fuel as well as spark. Also, if I have learned anything about Megasquirt its that the kits are all the same but as your assembling it you pick which components to install based on your needs. EDIT: OK I read a little about the megajolt and it says you can use EITHER or the TPS or MAP. I would assume its the same kit its just up to you which components you install. Edited October 14, 2008 by Fineline Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 .....so do you think the map setup will cause the stumble? I can see why tps would be instant and map might lag.....but I map should be a lot more accurate??? ...with megasquirt....if you have one that will handle the fuel management and the ignition....can you run just the ign...then later hook up the fuel? Quote Link to comment
Fineline Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 .....so do you think the map setup will cause the stumble? I can see why tps would be instant and map might lag.....but I map should be a lot more accurate??? ...with megasquirt....if you have one that will handle the fuel management and the ignition....can you run just the ign...then later hook up the fuel? I dont think you will have the stumble with ign. only. The TPS acceleration enrichment of Megasquirt acts like an accelerator pump on carbs. When it senses the throttle has been opened it opens your injectors longer for the extra fuel during acceleration. Of course all of this is adjustable by % extra and duration. With mine the ign. is based on the MAP so when it goes into boost the timing is retarded based on how much boost. With the megasquirt you can do just that. It will run the ign. and then later if you so decide you can add the fuel part. I dont know how much the Megajolt is but it seems more cost effective to get the Megasquirt and have the option. Especially you Mike........you can never leave well enough alone!:D Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Especially you Mike........you can never leave well enough alone!:D LOL......if it actually was "well enough" I'd leave it alone :) Quote Link to comment
slodat Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ...with megasquirt....if you have one that will handle the fuel management and the ignition....can you run just the ign...then later hook up the fuel? Mike, that is exactly what I did with my car. The nice thing about using MegaSquirt is you have a full blown ECU at your disposal for all kinds of other stuff - fan control, you can make idiot style warning lights.. anyway. you get the idea Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 you ether need a megasquirt or one of these for 80 bucks http://www.autosportlabs.com/-c-1.html What about a four coil/8 plug set up. I couldn't find anything. Quote Link to comment
Duke Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 What about a four coil/8 plug set up. I couldn't find anything. Well, that would be more of a EDIS side of the problem. It would be interesting if you could make EDIS work with a twin plug head...so do it Mike! Quote Link to comment
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