DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 i just got this wagon and the old owner changed the rear end and it pushes the back rims out passed the body which i don't like. i would like to know what in it. I'm join SR swap in the wagon. i want to get some type of coil overs or something that will Hold up Good wit Torque. I'm a drive that like to Punch it a lot. i even thought about IRS rear end wit Coilover but haven't seen anyone do it. not sure what to do. What is some options do i have for rear End??? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Maybe the rear end is fine and he just put the wrong off set rims on it. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 The rims are 15x5. Stock z rims. I put 3in blocks n the rear end didn't even drop Quote Link to comment
Jester Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'm sorry, but I have to call bull shit on that one. You can't put 3" blocks in ANYTHING and not have it be lower when your done. Look for an article by Icehouse on his wagon that he put a IRS from a 510 in a wagon. Pretty well documented and done right here on Ratsun. I'll see if I can find it for you. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 U can say it's bullshit but I don't know how to post pictures or I would show u. U can go on ratsun Facebook or my Instagram n I'll post a pic. It had a 1" block I took out n put the 3" block so it should of dropped 2" right? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 i just got this wagon and the old owner changed the rear end and it pushes the back rims out passed the body which i don't like. i would like to know what in it. I'm join SR swap in the wagon. i want to get some type of coil overs or something that will Hold up Good wit Torque. I'm a drive that like to Punch it a lot. i even thought about IRS rear end wit Coilover but haven't seen anyone do it. not sure what to do. What is some options do i have for rear End??? You'd better post a picture of this wagon because your signature picture is a sedan and very confusing. IRS is not the best for straight ahead acceleration, leaf springs are. IRS is marginally better for overall handling with or without an SR. Coils will not 'hold up' any better than leaf springs. The IRS swap has been done in a wagon but monstrous amount of work for dubious results. Just because something can be done doesn't make it a good idea. The rims are 15x5. Stock z rims. I put 3in blocks n the rear end didn't even drop Again pictures would help. Drop blocks will lower the car body so you've done it wrong or described it wrong so maybe the 'stock Z car rims' are wrong too. Posting pictures?... http://community.ratsun.net/topic/691-how-to-post-pictures-and-keep-online-photo-albums/ Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Im wondering How you put 3inch blocks under the axle sna you get no movement. You have airshocks or something? If you can figure this one out I say don't do the SR conversion. PS 3 inch blocks unless you rasie the roof of the drive line tunnel will just bang around and be really worse. where this 3 inches go? If you like to punch it a lot a mustang V8 are good for this. We are not mind readesr by maybe the other owner put the axle under the spring instead of top. Is this just another 510 axle. truck axle??????????? 4 lug 6 lug ect...????????????? 1 Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Mike. I'll change my pic. I guess I won't go IRS. I talked to a lot of guys at JCCS today about there wagons. Wat I was told today was mybe my shocks are fully extended n have to change that out. I put the block under the Axel. I kno I need to post some pic will do it today Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Lowering blocks under the axle do not affect the shock absorber length. They would have to be fully compressed to not allow the body any lower and this is impossible on the stock shock, very unlikely even if others were substituted... besides if you were riding on bottomed out shocks you would KNOW IT. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Lowering blocks under the axle do not affect the shock absorber length. They would have to be fully compressed to not allow the body any lower and this is impossible on the stock shock, very unlikely even if others were substituted... besides if you were riding on bottomed out shocks you would KNOW IT. Ok I'll post some pics when I get home !! Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 the wagon i got. this is after i did a lil work Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 the Passager side. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 my Rear end Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 driver side Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 and do you know if this is Where the battery is suppose to be.. ??? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Two things... 1/ Look above the rear end. Is the differential tight against the rubber bump stop? Doesn't look like it is but... 2/ unbolt the rear shocks from the differential. If these are from something else, this eliminates them as being bottomed out and holding the car up. No that is not where the battery goes but as long as it is carefully done and the long cable well insulated from rubbing then it's fine. It moves weight both lower and to the rear making the car even more 50/50. BTW looks like some leaves were removed in an attempt to lower. This is ill advised for another two reasons. 1/ It lowers the spring rate. This means on dips in the road the suspension travels further with less spring to support it. On an already lowered car this is insane. If anything, you should stiffen or add a leaf. 2/ The stock leaf stack resists side to side movement of the differential and the whole rear end during hard cornering. The tires will move outward on one side and in on the other possible rubbing the body and certainly upsetting the handling. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Two things... 1/ Look above the rear end. Is the differential tight against the rubber bump stop? Doesn't look like it is but... 2/ unbolt the rear shocks from the differential. If these are from something else, this eliminates them as being bottomed out and holding the car up. No that is not where the battery goes but as long as it is carefully done and the long cable well insulated from rubbing then it's fine. It moves weight both lower and to the rear making the car even more 50/50 1. no the rubber isn't touching. 2. see thats what i was thinking if the shocks was just hold the car up just never thought Old shocks would do so. 3. i walked the whole wire looks all new. but just wasn't sure if that was where it went. but i guess ill leave it there. do you know any good rear ends that fit in the Datsun wagons? Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 and do you know if wagons came wit Trailer Wiring? if you look in 2nd pic i posted there is the wiring on the button left it is for a trailer. is that Stock? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 This is an e brake cable for a rear disc brake. This part at least, is NOT for the 510 goon. My guess is the rear end is from a modified '82-'83 S110 200sx. The wiring is not stock 510 either. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Oo ok make since. Yea I'm cutting all the trailer shit off !! Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Why are those ubolts so splayed out? Also, might want to cut off the excess so they don't hit road bumps/debris as easily. The positive battery cable should be fused within a foot of the battery, unless you want it to become a giant toaster wire in a crash. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Starters draw hundreds of amps when cranking. I would run the positive cable through a garden hose for extra chaffing resistance and secure it at regular intervals INSIDE the car. Exiting only near the starter. You can also isolate the battery by using a ford solenoid and a dash switch. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 That's fine. ANL fuses are cheap, reliable, and go up to at least 750 amps. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Why are those ubolts so splayed out? Also, might want to cut off the excess so they don't hit road bumps/debris as easily. The positive battery cable should be fused within a foot of the battery, unless you want it to become a giant toaster wire in a crash. i dont kno what you mean by Splayed out? yea i know i should cut them but if i have to add more to make it lower i don't want to have to buy more U bolts. Never knew u can Fuse a Battery. since it is way holds the Volts. i would think wit or without the Fuse it would Be a Toaster. Quote Link to comment
DatsunSwag22 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Starters draw hundreds of amps when cranking. I would run the positive cable through a garden hose for extra chaffing resistance and secure it at regular intervals INSIDE the car. Exiting only near the starter. You can also isolate the battery by using a ford solenoid and a dash switch. throught a garden hose, never thought of that. i was thinking of putting Foam around the battery and around the Metal Ends. ?? Quote Link to comment
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