RMP&O Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Can't you just drill the hole out bigger and make a bigger bushing for the case? Possibly, I was thinking of this last night too. Could even oversize, machine a ss sleeve and keep the stock size bushing. That is if there is enough meat to do that. There may not be. They were not all that clear on the phone about it. I am going to send them my 2nd IP to scrap for parts. Just play it by ear and see how it goes. Got some really good news this morning. Crank is so good it just needs a polish. Head is also so good it just needs valve seats. Block has oil jets. Not going to have a lot into the motor. Stoked! For years and years there has been debate (in Patrol circles) about when Nissan started putting the oil jets in the N/A blocks. Some guys say mid-80's. Well, this 83 Euro spec SD33 has them, super stoked on that. Turbo is $385 to rebuild. I can deal with that. Cheers Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/4882124245.html This guy has a couple cheap sd33 non turbo. What is the pump body made out of? Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think the hardest part of machining that pump housing would be to make sure it's concentric. If you get that measurement wrong it could have disatrous results. Can you retrofit a diffferent pump? Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I think the hardest part of machining that pump housing would be to make sure it's concentric. If you get that measurement wrong it could have disatrous results. Can you retrofit a diffferent pump? Ya, I just sent them my 2nd turbo IP. Hoping the housing is good. Looking at the parts books, the only place it could be an issue would be the side that the governor mounts to. The engine side has a bearing and cage. But between the IP and the governor the IP cam rides on bushings. Just like crank bearings. I did some searching yesterday at Amayama with my 86 parts book. Pretty much everything for the IP and governor comes up available. Even a whole new IP shows available at a bit over $3k, new governor assembly is a bit over $1k. Plungers, barrels, springs even a new cam is available. Only part I found not available, you guessed it, the housing. The IP shop is going to let me know exactly which parts are needed, I sent them scans of the parts book diagram along with the 2nd pump. I will order the parts from Amayama. Cheers Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/4882124245.html This guy has a couple cheap sd33 non turbo. What is the pump body made out of? Alloy Cheers Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Good luck. $3K for a pump would be a deal breaker for me. Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 No deal breakers in this one, truck is getting built. :) Cheers Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Any machinist should be able to set the pump up in a way to make everything concentric and true, and make a bushing bring it back to factory specs. And 3k for a pump! At least it's new. Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 No deal breakers in this one, truck is getting built. :) Cheers What I mean is the $3K would have me thinking a different route. A different pump, etc... Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Any machinist should be able to set the pump up in a way to make everything concentric and true, and make a bushing bring it back to factory specs. You still need a baseline to go off of. If the pump housing is trashed, a baseline measurement may be difficult to obtain. Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 You still need a baseline to go off of. If the pump housing is trashed, a baseline measurement may be difficult to obtain. True, just make all of it then. :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 With the advent of the CNC machines having been such a long time ago, the average machinist now has a CNC mill in his home shop. Lots of guys out there willing to make parts. I live in the foothills and there are 5 CNC mills within 5 miles of my house. Remember 20 years ago when if it wasn't listed in a magazine, it didn't exist? Those days are long gone. I had a custom intake made a couple years ago for a customer. Wasn't cheap, but it was possible thanks to CNC technology. 1 Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Any machinist should be able to set the pump up in a way to make everything concentric and true, and make a bushing bring it back to factory specs. And 3k for a pump! At least it's new. From my experience, pretty much only Nissan diesels, $3k for a new pump isn't horrible. Rebuild is probably going to be $2k. If the new IP included the governor, I would probably just go that route. But the governor is an extra $1k. It is a diesel after all, the IP is the most complex and expensive bit of gear on it. I got a great machinist I work with, he made new pulleys for the engine. Cheers Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Yeah I saw thos pulleys. They are nice. I guess you have me convinced. I look at the pump on my John Deere diesel tractor and I can't imagine spending that much, but you're right, they are complex, hence the sealed wire tag on the bolts. Just for kicks, check out the intake we made. 3 Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I wish I just had a knee mill at home, I don't have the money or the room. Machining an injection pump for a diesel would be a fun an pain in the ass job. 1 Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Stoked! My 2nd IP from Europe is good. Casing is great on it, no worries. All I need to barrels and plungers and I will be set. Ordering those from Amayama. Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah I saw thos pulleys. They are nice. I guess you have me convinced. I look at the pump on my John Deere diesel tractor and I can't imagine spending that much, but you're right, they are complex, hence the sealed wire tag on the bolts. Just for kicks, check out the intake we made. Nice! The old SD33T from what I understand wakes up a lot with a better intake manifold. Stock is pretty restrictive. Seen a few made by guys in Australia. I would be into it on this engine but don't feel the need to go that far with it. Basically it is just getting rebuilt back to stock for the Ute. On another SD33T I have I would be into a better manifold. That motor is super modified and would benefit from a better manifold. Cheers Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 You could always fabricate one or have one fabricated for you. Hogan's Manifolds does a pretty nice job. Getting one machined is expensive and time consuming. Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Here is what I am thinking of doing to the Ute's cab. Gives more leg room in the cab and would allow for a bigger guy to drive this truck. Been thinking about stretching the cab for a good number of years now. Got to do a ton of body work ot the cab anyways, what's a bit more!? Cheers 3 Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 That will be nice, more leg room is always better! Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 The hardest part would be the roof. 1 Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 The hardest part would be the roof. For sure. But I was thinking cut it in the middle. Cap got to come off anyways. Easier to stretch the roof in the center. Cheers Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Here is a bit of gold. :) This is for a different project, my 83 Patrol. That adapter allows me to bolt the NV4500 to a Nissan SD33T diesel. I got another SD33T I went crazy on back in 2008/9. It really is over the top. Never wanted to put the Nissan trans behind it, gearing not low enough. So back in 2008 I bought this adapter kit from IH Only, a Scout specialist. For awhile I needed the NV4500 and Atlas t-case. Got those last year. Then I needed the right bellhousing and engine plate plus correct flywheel. Got all that off the Scout SD33T I bought for parts last fall. Recently checking to make sure it will all work and that I am good to go. Happy to find it is good to go and I am golden. Long ass drivetrain though, going to push the shifter back 6"! Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Wait...you're putting an Atlas in this thing? I like the NV4500. They feel like a proper truck trans with the added bonus of not having to double clutch. Quote Link to comment
RMP&O Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Nope, for my 1983 Patrol. Cheers Quote Link to comment
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