Jesse C. Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 9 hours ago, VFR800 said: When she went into combat, they found out that all the signatures actually caused the plane to be slower than the other bare skin planes. But, she kept flying that way. 5 Grand survived the war and made it back home. She was offered to the City of Seattle for a memorial, but the said no. She ended up being scrapped at Kingman Arizona 3 3 Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Chopper Jim said: The arsenal of Democracy, several generations later. 2 Quote Link to comment
Stinky Posted August 23, 2020 Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 Ive read that planes were flown there, straight from the factory. Possibly is Stephen Ambrose's book on McGovern in WWII I know a guy whose dad worked there. 1 Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 12:11 PM, Stinky said: Ive read that planes were flown there, straight from the factory. It is a sad truth that in government contracting it is cheaper when a contract is cancelled to take delivery and scrap than to pay termination costs. 3 Quote Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) On 8/23/2020 at 12:11 PM, Stinky said: Ive read that planes were flown there, straight from the factory. Possibly is Stephen Ambrose's book on McGovern in WWII I know a guy whose dad worked there. As the war was ending, decisions where made on what planes would still be viable to keep after the war. Most where considered obsolete and thus disposed of rather quickly. Overseas aircraft where scrapped on site, unless deemed vital and then they where flown or shipped back home or to other sites. It was cheaper to scrap on site than to bring them home for scrapping. And yes, quite a few factory fresh planes where flown directly into "Storage" for disposal. Some where even flown to modification centers to be updated first and then straight to the fields. Zero service and straight to scrapping. P-38 Lightnings in the Philippines Europe Pacific Island of Biak Edited August 25, 2020 by Jesse C. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Stinky Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 The P-38s...in another book that I read, it decried the lack of available planes, 5 years later, when P38s were scrapped in, I think, Korea. At the very least close to Korea. Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Osprey? I heard a weird noise,& looked up to see two of them flying North today. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
J-Luis Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 Great picture of "black-tail" number 4 in the last post! Exhaust or paint? There's some internet documentation says it is not painted black... but it looks too perfect not to be paint. "A popular myth is, given the exhaust emissions of the F-4's engines, the vertical stabilizer of the No. 4 slot aircraft was painted flat black. However, this is false; the vertical stabilizer of the No. 4 slot aircraft was allowed to be blackened by jet exhaust starting in 1960. Phantoms were used from 1969 to 1973." 2 Quote Link to comment
J-Luis Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 Hmmm? Cleaned up or freshly painted for static display? 2 Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 B58 Hustler? Quote Link to comment
VFR800 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, angliagt said: B58 Hustler? Looks like it yes. 1 Quote Link to comment
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