KoHeartsGPA Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I suppose we remain few with a shred of hope that critical thinking and problem solving are surviving human characteristics. How's asking a question of witch the answer is already known, critical thinking? I'm intrigued. Link to comment
tr8er Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 How's asking a question of witch the answer is already known, critical thinking? I'm intrigued. I do expect that you are being phasitious but I'm a sucker... Question: "How can we win this [ideological war] if we don't address it ideologically?" This is the question right? And your answer is to kill jihadists. Right? Would you agree that we have a larger enemy now, than we did in 2001? Typically, in war, when a strategy proves ineffective, different strategies are considered. Thus far, every act of aggression has resulted in a growing enemy, so I suppose I see an opportunity to re-consider our approach. So I suppose we don't all see the same answer. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 If two combatants were both Christian maybe you could, even is both agreed to peacefully disagree. Islam is basically at war with anything non Islamic. Christians used to be this way even 500 years ago maybe less but it has grown out of that for the most part. The sharp edges have been worn off. The ten commandments are more of a rough guide really. Islam needs a few centuries to 'lighten up'. 2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I do expect that you are being phasitious but I'm a sucker... Question: "How can we win this [ideological war] if we don't address it ideologically?" This is the question right? And your answer is to kill jihadists. Right? Would you agree that we have a larger enemy now, than we did in 2001? Typically, in war, when a strategy proves ineffective, different strategies are considered. Thus far, every act of aggression has resulted in a growing enemy, so I suppose I see an opportunity to re-consider our approach. So I suppose we don't all see the same answer. You failed to answer my question, instead you asked one in witch Mike answered ever so smoothly (thanks, Mike) And when you're dealing with people whom are willing to die killing anyone who is considered an infidel....yes the answer is clear, kill them.....cuz they will kill you when they get the chance to. 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 this is an asymetric war. You often hear politicians to carpet bomb them. This is unrealistic and they are just tugging at your heartstring. There is no battle lines unlike when we invaded Iraq or during ww2 or the Korean war. All you have to do is google Philippines and moro war. The Spanish, Americans, Japanese and Pilipinod tried to defeat them and today after like 200 years or so the Pilipinos have been at war with the moros or " radicalized" Muslims in Midanao. This " terrorism" have been going on for many years, its just hitting at home now. Even in Europe, the Moors, which what they called them went all the way to Spain. So there is no military solution. Im afraid to tell you guys this but this is the way its going to be for a long time and im certain there will be no peace in my life time. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 You failed to answer my question, instead you asked one in witch Mike answered ever so smoothly (thanks, Mike) And when you're dealing with people whom are willing to die killing anyone who is considered an infidel....yes the answer is clear, kill them.....cuz they will kill you when they get the chance to. Your conjecture, prefacing the question was flawed. We don't all know the answer. How can I answer a question predicated on a flawed conjecture? No can. It is critical thinking, because the answer is unknown. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Your conjecture, prefacing the question was flawed. We don't all know the answer. How can I answer a question predicated on a flawed conjecture? No can. It is critical thinking, because the answer is unknown. Then why ask the fucking question? Link to comment
Rjawm Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 And when you're dealing with people whom are willing to die killing anyone who is considered an infidel....yes the answer is clear, kill them.....cuz they will kill you when they get the chance to. Just ask the Russians how that worked out for them in the 20 years they tried to take and keep Afghanistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War Link to comment
tr8er Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Then why ask the fucking question? Holy fuck. To inspire Critical Thinking. Remember? The basis of your reply? 2 Link to comment
Rjawm Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Then why ask the fucking question? To find the "unknown" answer. Before Einstein figured out the theory of relativity, no one knew the answer either. Link to comment
tr8er Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Sorry King. I was making assumptions. Here ya go: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Wow.... 1 Link to comment
paradime Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 If two combatants were both Christian maybe you could, even is both agreed to peacefully disagree. Islam is basically at war with anything non Islamic. Christians used to be this way even 500 years ago maybe less but it has grown out of that for the most part. The sharp edges have been worn off. The ten commandments are more of a rough guide really. Islam needs a few centuries to 'lighten up'. In the hands of humans, religion is a dangerous thing. Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 If we are discussing the Judea brotherhood, I'd like to say Trump gave a shout out to ben carson in post debate party Link to comment
q-tip Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Just ask the Russians how that worked out for them in the 20 years they tried to take and keep Afghanistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War It the spetsnaz couldn't do it then I don't think we can, they would fire a warning shot, if you didn't respond they mowed you down. They were a lot less diplomatic than we are. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 To be clear I was talking about extreme religion. Most people are content to practice their belief quietly while all around them are at odds with them. This is why it's said that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and they probably are. It's just easier to be to get along. I'm sure the Bible says some radical shit in it that could be taken and acted on and considered extremist too. 1 Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 it's a bit subtle but visceral at the same time! 1 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Is that the sound of mini me???? Link to comment
Draker Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Listening to Comey testify in front of the house.. They are hitting him hard.. and he's deflecting like the matrix. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 He surely studied the Hillary strat book page by page apparently... Link to comment
paradime Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Read these conservative paper's criticism of Donald Trump bellow and you'll understand my dilemma. I've had a knot in my stomach this election season because both candidates are so flawed, and unworthy of the office. It might be easier if it was a clear choice between the lesser of two evils, but there is no comfort there either. It's just BAD. My Father, who is a strong Conservative/Libertarian told me he will not be voting this season for the first time in his life. He can see Trump is not fit to run this country, but would NEVER vote for Hillary. He sent me these editorials. My anti establishment position when it comes to our corrupt top heavy government should drive me into Trump's camp, but for me, that buffoon comes nowhere near my expectations of a worthy alternative. I can totally get behind bashing the shit out of these anal wart candidates, but for the life of me I can't understand why ANYONE would "choose" one with enthusiasm; including these "conservative" papers Please, don't bother responding to this if you haven't read these editorials as a frame of reference. The 'Arizona Republic' is breaking GOP streak of 126 years to endorse Clinton. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/ The Cincinnati Enquirer has supported Republicans for president for almost a century endorse Clinton. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/editorials/2016/09/23/enquirer-endorses-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/90728344/ This election was the first time The Dallas Morning News had recommended a Democrat for president since before World War II. http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2016/09/07/recommend-hillary-clinton-us-president Houston Chronicle Editorial Board also endorsed Hillary Clinton http://www.chron.com/opinion/recommendations/article/For-Hillary-Clinton-8650345.php Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 So...Hillary sells uranium to the Russians and is behind the Turkey coup attempt? Yes she's more fit to be POTUS than Trump.....fuck off! https://youtu.be/_Q0zuFDJHIk 1 Link to comment
DaBlist Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 For many this election is not really about Trump It's Hillary or hell no Hillary 3 Link to comment
racerx Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 fear is the path to the dark side, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering...Yoda 2 Link to comment
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