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  I am beginning to scrounge up the parts needed to rebuild the original E1 engine in the NL320 that came to live with us over the Christmas holidays. Several weeks ago I found a webpage that gave some very good interchange information on the interchange of parts between the E1 engine and other engines. A number of matches/near matches were with the J13 engine and a number of British engines, even giving dimensional comparisons. There were even some motorcycle engine parts comparisons included. The page also contained measurements and specs for a number of other early Datsun engines, but the main content was interchangeability for the E1. This info is invaluable to someone trying to resurrect an E1 engine. The webpage is all text; no photos or links.

 

  I have been saving links in a WORD file that pertain to the Datsun cars that have really caught my fancy. Anyway, to the point of the post. The past several days I have tried to access the site with the interchange info and keep getting a 'Forbidden on the Server that you are Using' . I’ve tried to access it from several different computers with different servers.  Here is the site address:

 

http://www.farm.net/~mason/datsun/datsun-parts.html

 

If someone can get this to open and save the text in some viewable format (WORD, PDF, etc.) and post back on the thread, I’d be eternally grateful. Some others here at Ratsun could surely also make use of the data.

 

Thanks

 

Steve

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Its either members only or more likely the site is shutdown. Like they stopped paying for it. Wayno should b able to find us something tho  :hyper:

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difrangia, send me your email and ill get it to you, ive got it saved as a whole webpage and ill try to get it in pdf for you.... just gotta know about caches.......

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heres a copy paste of it for anyone else looking for that info, myself and difrangia also have a pdf of it if anyone needs it in that format....

 

 

 

Early US Datsun Engine Info

 

Engine Type                            Displacement

A12A                                      1237cc                    210    1980-1982

A14                                        1397cc                    210    1975-1982

310    1975-1981

A15                                        1488cc                    210    1979-1982

310    1981

310GX 1981

CA18ET                                   1809cc                    200SX 1984

CA20E                                     1974cc                    200SX 1984

E1                                          1189cc                    312    1961-1965

320    1961-1965

410    1961-1965

Bore                        2.874 in

73.0 mm

Stroke                     2.7953 in

71.0 mm

Compression ratio     8.2:1

Piston pin                 0.687 in

17.45 mm

Compression height  1.280 in

32.5 mm

Piston type               Flat top

 

Rod journals             1.8754/1.8760 in 47.635/47.650 mm

Rod bearings            AE # B4427LC

 

Main journals           2.0004/2.0009 in 50.810/50.822 mm

Main bearings           AE # M3297SA Crank Thrust Washer AE # 2010SA Pistons - Alternate Sources

Datsun 520 - 1965-1969

 

 

Datsun J13 engine    Datsun 521 - 1965-1967

Datsun 411 - 1965-1968

 

Identical

 

 

 

 

Datsun A10 engine   Datsun 1000 - 1965-1970 Slight CR change

Datsun A12 engine   Datsun 1200 - 1971-1973

Datsun B110 - 1971-1973

Datsun A13 engine   Datsun B210 - 1974         Slight CR change Main Bearings - Alternate Sources

Datsun 411 1965-1969

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Datsun J13 engine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Datsun 520 1965-1969

Datsun 521 1965-1969

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Identical

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MG MGA 1600 MK1   1961-1962                      Identical

MG Magnette MK4    1961-1962                      Identical

Austin A60               1962-1969                      Identical

E15                                        1488cc                                                   

   310    1982

J13                                         1299cc                                                  

    411    1965-1968

520    1965-1969

521    1965-1967

Bore                        2.874

73.0mm

Stroke                     3.0551

Compression ratio     8.2:1

Piston pin                 0.687

Compression height  1.279

Piston Type              Flat Top

Rod journals             1.8754/1.8760

47.635 mm/47.650 mm

Rod bearings            AE # B4427LC

Main journals           2.0004/2.0009

50.810 mm/50.822 mm

Main bearings           AE # M3297SA Crank Thrust Washer AE # 2010SA

L16                                         1595cc                                                  

    510    1968-1973

521    1969-1972

620    1973

Bore                        3.268

83.00 mm

Stroke                     2.9016

Compression ratio     8.5:1

Piston pin                 0.827

Compression height  1.496

Piston Type              Dished

Rod journals             1.9670/1.9673

Rod bearings            AE # B4491SA

Main journals           2.1631/2.1635

Main bearings           AE # M5269SA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Crank Thrust Washer N/A

L18                                         1770cc                                                  

610    1973-1974

620    1973-1974

L20B                                       1952cc                                                  

200SX 1977-1979

510    1977-1979

610    1974-1976

620    1974-1976

620    1977-1979

L24                                         2393cc                                                  

240Z   1970-1973

L26                                         2563cc                                                  

260Z   1974-1975

L28/L28E                                2753cc                                                  

280Z   1975-1983

280ZX 1975-1983

VG30(T)                                  2960cc                                                  

300ZX 1984

Z20E/Z20S                              1952cc                                                  

200SX 1980-1982

510    1980-1982

Z22E                                       2187cc                                                  

200SX 1982-1983

 

 

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E1 Engine Info

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E1 engine - 1189cc

Datsun 312 1961-1965

Datsun 320 Pickup 1961-1965

Datsun 410 - 1961-1965

 

Size                - 1189cc

Compression ratio  - 8.2:1

Bore                - 2.874 (73.0 mm)

Stroke              - 2.7953 stroke (71.0 mm)

Piston pin         - 0.687 (17.45 mm)

Compression height - 1.280 (32.5 mm) Flat top piston

 

Rod journals  - 1.8754/1.8760 (47.635 mm/47.650 mm) Rod bearings  - AE # B4427LC

Main journals - 2.0004/2.0009 (50.810 mm/50.822 mm) Main bearings - AE # M3297SA

 

Valves

Intake  - AE # V34491 Exhaust - AE # V34563

 

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Pistons

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AE # 20907

 

Pistons are also used in: J13 engine - 1299cc

Datsun 520 - 1965-1969

Datsun 521 - 1965-1967

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Datsun 411 - 1965-1968

 

Similiar pistons used in:

A10 engine - 988cc - AE # 19659 Datsun 1000 - 1965-1970

Note: 1.283 compression height with flat top height gives 8.5:1 CR

 

A12 engine - 1171cc - AE # 19690 Datsun 1200 - 1971-1973 Datsun B110 - 1971-1973

Note: 1.279 compression height with dished top gives 9.0:1 in an A12 engine, CR would likely be 

lower than stock 8.2:1 in an A1 engine

 

A13 engine - 1288cc - AE # 20228 Datsun B210 - 1974

Note: 1.283 compression height with dished piston gives 8.5:1 in an an A13 engine, CR would likely 

be lower than stock 8.2:1 in an A1 engine.

 

Other possibilities:

745 cc Norton - AE # 19145

P11, P11A, N15CS, Matchless G15CS - 1964-1969

Note: Has 0.687 pin and 1.543 compression height.  Would need rod eye honed 0.002" and 0.263" 

removed from piston crown.  The piston has valve cutouts on the top, so it might be possible to 

remove that much, or less could be removed to raise the CR.  There was also a 7:1 version of this 

piston made that is not listed here, it probably has a compression height very close to what's 

needed. Original Hepolite pistons for these bikes are expensive, but there are some very good 

quality low cost japanese pistons available for British bikes these days, although the 7:1 version 

is not likely to be reproduced.

 

MG/Triumph - AE # 19708

MG/Triumph - AE # 20139/V1 (California model) MG Midget MK4 1500 1975-1980

Spitfire 1500 1973-1974

Spitfire 1500 1975-1981 emissions control

Note: 2.8995 bore, 1.287 compression height, 0.813 pin

These pistons would require a 0.64mm (0.0255") overbore, which is very reasonable, but the rod eyes 

would need to be reamed 0.126" oversize, which might be too much.

 

A12A engine - AE # 21508

Datsun 210 Sedan - 1980-1981

Note: 2.9527 bore, 1.2850 compression height, 0.750 pin A12A engine - AE # 21533

Datsun 210 Sedan - 1982

Note: 2.9527 bore, 1.2805 compression height, 0.750 pin

Pistons for the E1/J13 engines come in up to a 1.5mm overbore, this piston would require a 2mm 

overbore, which might be possible if the cylinders are thick enough.  The rod eyes would need to be 

reamed to 0.750.  Both of these pistons are dished and would probably give a CR below the stock 

8.2:1.

 

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Rod Bearings

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Rod Bearings - AE # B4427LC

Journal size - 1.8754-1.8760 Housing size - 2.0210-2.0215 Max thickness - 0.072

Length        - 0.871

 

Rod bearings also used on:

Datsun 411, 520, 521 (J13 engine) 1965-1969

Can be modified to fit: AE # B4173M - 0.880 long

Hillman Minx Series IIIA, Series B 1959-1961

 

AE # B4354SA - 0.880 long

Hillman Minx Series IIIA, Series B 1959-1961 Sunbeam Alpine Series I 1958 - 1961

Sunbeam Rapier Series 3 with iron head 1958-1961

 

AE # B4170M - 1.005 long Austin A50/A55 1954-1961 MG MGA MK1 1954-1962

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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MG Magnette 1954-1962

 

AE # B4357SA - 1.005 long Austin A60 1962-1969

MG MGA 1600 MK 1 1959-1961

MG MGA 1600 MK 2 1961-1962

MG MGB 1800 1962-1964

 

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Main Bearings

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Main Bearings - AE # M3297SA

Journal size - 2.0005-2.0010 Housing size - 2.1460-2.1465 Max thickness - 0.072

Length        - 1.223

 

Main bearings are also used on:

Datsun 411, 520, 521 (J13 engine) 1965-1969

MG MGA 1600 MK1 - 1961-1962

MG Magnette MK4 - 1961-1962 Austin A60      - 1962-1969

 

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Thrust Washers

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Thrust Washers Set - AE # W2010SA Inside Diameter  - 2.2150-2.2250

Outside Diameter - 2.74000-2.75000

Max Thickness    - 0.092"

 

Identical to:

 

Austin A60      - 1962-1969

MG MGA MK1      - 1954-1962 MG MGA 1600 MK1 - 1959-1961

MG MGA 1600 MK2 - 1961-1962

MG Magnette     - 1954-1962 MG Magnette     - 1961-1962

 

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Valves

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Intake - AE # V34258

Type - PG Head - 1.375"

Stem - 0.344"

Length - 4.313"

 

Intake Guides - AE # VAG50963 - Cast Iron Intake Guides - AE # VAG50963BR - Bronze

Type - P  Length - 1.875"

Inside Diameter - 0.344" Outside Diameter - 0.563"

 

Exhaust - AE # 90216

Type - PG Head - 1.184"

Stem - 0.342"

Length - 4.279

 

Exhaust Guides - AE # VAG50909 - Cast Iron Exhaust Guides - AE # VAG50909 - Bronze

Type - P  Length - 2.219"

Inside Diameter - 0.344 Outside Diameter - 0.563"

 

Intake and Exhaust guides used on Austin/MG Valve Springs - AE # VSP5094P

Look for all these parts listed under other Datsun/Nissan

 

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Gaskets

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Head - AJ060 Head Set - CJ060 Full Set - FJ060

Valve Cover - JM006 Oil pan - JH007

 

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Valve Train Etc.

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Chain - TC2352

See also:  Austin, Austin Healy, MG, Toyota Crank Sprocket - 7S471

Cam Sprocket - 7S470 Tensioner - BT6 Timing Kit - TK15
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Erichwaslike,

  Thanks, man, you’re a lifesaver. The 320 has a bigger smile on her face today.

 

Steve

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for future reference, if you have a page thats giving you that message, put the web address in a google search, it should be the first result and next to it youll see a tiny arrow, click it and veiw the cached on, its a pic of the page from the past and most of the time gets what you need....Untitled1_zps60b4586b.png

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This is really good too. You can put any (popular) website in here and view it at different times while it was in existence.

 

https://archive.org/web/

 

For example. here is the page site on feb 21st

 

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://farm.net/~mason/datsun/datsun-parts.html

 

and here is the whole site

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20120221185757/http://www.farm.net/~mason/datsun/

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Wayno should b able to find us something tho  :hyper:

 

In your dreams, I know nothing about this subject other than I have an E1 in my NL320 and the 63 L320. and they both run good, so I leave them alone. :lol:

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None of those engines interchange with the E1 Datsun engine. But all can be swapped in with more or less work and are of similar size. Some are quite close to the E1 but not a direct interchange.

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It was pretty sparse info and never actually was of use to me getting anything I needed.

 

dp320 or anyone,

 

 Could you supply any interchange info or sources for E1 parts that I can start chasing. I've picked up gasket set, exhaust valves, and cam bearings, & timing chain from Ebay (all US suppliers) so far. I can get bearings from Ebay but don't know what sizes till I get the engine broke down & evaluate the crank. Need a source for E1 or J13 pistons, water pump, oil pump, & clutch/pressure plate/throw-out. Also does any one know if the pumps & clutch stuff will interchange betweem E1 & J13??

 

This is not my first rodeo on the obsolete parts issue. In the 70's & 80's there was no internet to work with on the oddball vehicles that I'm attracted to. I'm much luckier now days. Also have access to machining for modifications if necessary.

 

Steve

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I found three sets of pistons at a company in NY state.  Two sets were +.040, the other +.020.  I purchased one of the +.040's.  I got a full set of bearings and gaskets from them.  Cam shaft from an MG parts company in Seattle (Ballard).  Don't recall where I got my intake and exhaust valves.

 

I think the NY company also specialized in MG and whoever was there knew how to put together a set of stuff after I asked about the pistons.  I searched by part number and it led to an inventory item the guy didn't even realize he had.  I called, asked, he went, "let me check" and sure enough they were still on the shelf.

 

Try using both Bing and Google for searches.  Use IE, cause frankly Microsoft is just better and all the Firefox and other fanbois are just paranoid, anti-capitalist, losers.

 

I'll have to check my folder for the name of the company.

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I found three sets of pistons at a company in NY state.  Two sets were +.040, the other +.020.  I purchased one of the +.040's.  I got a full set of bearings and gaskets from them.  Cam shaft from an MG parts company in Seattle (Ballard).  Don't recall where I got my intake and exhaust valves.

 

I think the NY company also specialized in MG and whoever was there knew how to put together a set of stuff after I asked about the pistons.  I searched by part number and it led to an inventory item the guy didn't even realize he had.  I called, asked, he went, "let me check" and sure enough they were still on the shelf.

 

Try using both Bing and Google for searches.  Use IE, cause frankly Microsoft is just better and all the Firefox and other fanbois are just paranoid, anti-capitalist, losers.

 

I'll have to check my folder for the name of the company.

 

Great information, dp320,

  If you can come up with any more info, I'd sure appreciate it. The MG cam thing really interests me. I'd like to have a little bump on the cam and put a Weber on with the stock air cleaner. A few more horses and pretty much the original look under the hood.

 

Steve

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I found three sets of pistons at a company in NY state.  Two sets were +.040, the other +.020.  I purchased one of the +.040's.  I got a full set of bearings and gaskets from them.  Cam shaft from an MG parts company in Seattle (Ballard).  Don't recall where I got my intake and exhaust valves.

 

I think the NY company also specialized in MG and whoever was there knew how to put together a set of stuff after I asked about the pistons.  I searched by part number and it led to an inventory item the guy didn't even realize he had.  I called, asked, he went, "let me check" and sure enough they were still on the shelf.

 

Try using both Bing and Google for searches.  Use IE, cause frankly Microsoft is just better and all the Firefox and other fanbois are just paranoid, anti-capitalist, losers.

 

I'll have to check my folder for the name of the company.

 

DP320,

  Did you get a chance to see if you had the name of the NY parts supplier? Also, are you saying that you used an MG cam in an E1 engine?

 

Steve

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Ok, the name of the NY parts supplier is ClassicGarage.com out of Brewster.

 

Gasket set

ae-fj060.

 

Bearings (not sure which is which)

ae-mb347am.5  (mb = main?)

ae-cr4424am.75 (cr = crank?)

 

Thrust washers

vp-w190std

 

Timing Chain

tc-2352

 

The gasket kit had "Cherry No FKS 452K W"  and "Engine Overhaul Kit, Datsun Bluebird, E-1, J. Eng., 1963-1967" on the packaging.

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