EdwardK Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Alright two questions. The first, has anybody tried 300zx (z31) struts? I've found two of those in one of my local scrap yards and I've been eyeballing 'em. The second. Anybody want an A/C for a 610? I don't really want it. The rest of the engine I'm keeping as a spare for my truck, so don't ask for it. Just the A/C related stuff. (Switch, compressor, any mounting hardware, etc.) Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 If I were closer I'd grab it. Hell, maybe I wouldn't; Eagle_Adam has one for me and he lives less than an hour away.. still haven't gone and gotten it from him yet :no: Fail. 1 Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted January 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Got the dime down to the workshop today. Took about three hours to move the car roughly four hundred feet using elbow grease and some chain hoists. (No way to tow the vehicle down to the shop without getting the tow vehicle stuck. Working on a turn-around down there.) Also took the hood off and started getting the L18 ready to be pulled. I'd already have it out if it wasn't so blasted cold. (Southern boy complaining about the cold please ignore. lol) The rear tires would hold air when rolled to the right spot. So, we managed to roll it until one tire went flat and then usually we could pump up the other. I'm so lucky the shop was mostly downhill. I have a video of us using the chain hoist to pull it into the shop. I just need to turn it into a time lapse and I'll post it up. lol More coming soon. Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 OKAY! How do the fenders come off? I have all the bolts of the front and tops of the fenders but find no bolts holding the rear of the fenders on. Uhh help? lol Also, looks like this Datty has been wrecked before. Fender has been replaced and there is some minor damage to the frame. I'll get some pics once the fenders come off. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Down below where the trim covers the bottom of the front fender, there should be 2 bolts holding down there. The trim covers the access holes. Beware: More times than not, I've found these bolts to be rounded or corroded off, so make accomodations and expect to do some extracting of broken fasteners.. By the way, I LOVE this pic. Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Down below where the trim covers the bottom of the front fender, there should be 2 bolts holding down there. The trim covers the access holes. Beware: More times than not, I've found these bolts to be rounded or corroded off, so make accomidations and expect to do some extracting of broken fasteners.. By the way, I LOVE this pic. Thank you! I had to (carefully) drill the head out of one of the bolts, but none of the others gave me any problem. And thanks again. :D Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Whelp. I found a full 280zx nearby... It's in good shape sadly. But it's also dirt cheap, so the plan is to buy it, strip the suspension and brakes out of it.... Find another suspension and brake set for it... and... do something with it... Not entirely sure about it yet. But anyway, I've got a suspension system. Unless by some freakish reason the guy sells the car out from under me. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 That's been known to happen. Otherwise, it's a good source for a few nice upgrades :thumbup: 1 Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Well, I was gonna go pick up that 280ZX this weekend. But the bank says I can't access my money on weekends apparently... Oi... So instead I got a little work done on the car and the engine. (As well as some stuff done on an 'extracurricular' project.) I've been pulling some measurements trying to envision how this engine is going to fit.... aaannnd... Am I tripping? Or can that cross-member be flipped around backward to allow my oil pan to fit? Seriously... It looks like it can be... (Crosses fingers.) Also got most of the front-end stripped down. Gonna clean the mud and dirt off and at least apply a liberal coating of POR51 or something. Definitely gonna repaint the whole car sometime... But that'll probably happen next year or the year after to be honest. Also... I absolutely loath these type jacking points... :sneaky: Pulled the old motor out and this is where it sits now. Gonna rebuild it for use as a backup for the Tofumobile. Artistic shot. :P Not much to say other than I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have to get a different down-pipe or whatever it's called. Looks like it'll interfere with the steering box. a/c and p/s removed from the engine. Don't really plan to do anything else to this motor, just run it as is. Not like I want to incinerate my tires.(Roasting is okay.) But yeah... About that cross-member... Can it be flipped? :confused: Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 But yeah... About that cross-member... Can it be flipped? :confused: Sure. But it's going to move your motor mounts forward, and put your control arms on the wrong side of the crossmember. B) On a 610, it's a lot easier to just cut out the center and weld it back in backwards. :thumbup: In order to "just flip it around", you need to remove the sleeves the LCA bolts go into and reinstall them backwards (cut and weld), then weld on some new material to the top to bolt the engine brackets to in their new spot. This is feasible, but more work than a quick cut and weld on the center section. Also, in case you weren't aware, you'll need a new sway bar as well. That stock bar won't clear the CA pan. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I have pictures of what a flipped 610 crossmember looks like in my build thread if you're interested in seeing what one looks like. 1 Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sure. But it's going to move your motor mounts forward, and put your control arms on the wrong side of the crossmember. B) On a 610, it's a lot easier to just cut out the center and weld it back in backwards. :thumbup: In order to "just flip it around", you need to remove the sleeves the LCA bolts go into and reinstall them backwards (cut and weld), then weld on some new material to the top to bolt the engine brackets to in their new spot. This is feasible, but more work than a quick cut and weld on the center section. Also, in case you weren't aware, you'll need a new sway bar as well. That stock bar won't clear the CA pan. SEE, and this is the reason I ask before I do anything. Thank you! I was also not aware the sway bar wouldn't clear... I don't suppose there are any aftermarket bars that fit? Or am I gonna have to fab one up? I have pictures of what a flipped 610 crossmember looks like in my build thread if you're interested in seeing what one looks like. Which build thread? The Turtle Power one? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Most guys simply run w/o a sway bar. Stiffer front springs help. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Which build thread? The Turtle Power one? Yeah :) Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Most guys simply run w/o a sway bar. Stiffer front springs help. Hrmmm... Custom it is! lol Kinda hoping to run this car on Daytona in November, soo I definitely want the extra rigidity. Yeah :) Ah, I saw that. Thing of beauty I tell yah. :D Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I don't suppose there are any aftermarket bars that fit? Or am I gonna have to fab one up? There are several aftermarket bars that will fit. These guys... http://maddat.com.au/180b.php These guys... http://www.datsport.com/product-menu.html Maybe these guys? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ST-ANTI-SWAY-BAR-68-73-DATSUN-510-FRONT-REAR-/190899876943?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c7284f44f I know Quickor in Oregon made one for a 510, should work on a 610? If a 510 works... These guys... http://mckinneymotorsports.com/prod_DATSUN+510+SR-KA+mount+kit 1 Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 There are several aftermarket bars that will fit. These guys... http://maddat.com.au/180b.php These guys... http://www.datsport.com/product-menu.html Maybe these guys? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ST-ANTI-SWAY-BAR-68-73-DATSUN-510-FRONT-REAR-/190899876943?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c7284f44f I know Quickor in Oregon made one for a 510, should work on a 610? If a 510 works... These guys... http://mckinneymotorsports.com/prod_DATSUN+510+SR-KA+mount+kit Thanks for those! Though.... I think I'll just get a mechanic I know to help me fab up some custom ones. Probably be cheaper that way. lol On a different note, Got the suspension donor today! Been working on firing it up. :P I think it's funny how the sports car is bigger than the truck... Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Though.... I think I'll just get a mechanic I know to help me fab up some custom ones. Probably be cheaper that way. If you can get a hold of a stick of spring steel (preferably 4340 chromoly), it isn't too tough... :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 If you can get a hold of a stick of spring steel (preferably 4340 chromoly), it isn't too tough... :thumbup: Totally! Hopefully the steel supplier my blacksmith friend uses can order me some in a small quantity. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 FYI, when we made one a few years ago, we bolted on the stock bar, cut out the center (where it hit the pan), and welded on some cheap pipe in the shape we needed. Then we took it off to used it as a pattern to make new one. :thumbup: 2 Quote Link to comment
Dime Dave Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 If you are making your own sway-bars you want a steel called Stressproof. It is an 1144 alloy steel that has been used for years for sway-bars. You want to cold form it so you don't loose the temper. Here is a shop that sells it. AED Motorsport Products 2 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 If you are making your own sway-bars you want a steel called Stressproof. Thanks! That's the word I was trying to think of but couldn't... :rofl: Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 or get a torsion bar and get creative making a universal 1 Quote Link to comment
EdwardK Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Dang... It's been a while eh? Finally got the time to get back into the workshop with the 610, I've got the transmission mounted in place now, I'm wondering if I can just trim the shoulder off the drive shaft to make it fit... 'Cause, it looks perfect... On the other hand, there was no modification done to the transmission mounts, it all just fit in there like a glove... Weird... Suspension and brake upgrades are gonna have to wait unfortunately as I've got moved into a much lower paying job. Also, kinda sorta gave the 280zx to my brother, so I can't use that as a donor anymore... However, I don't think it'll be a problem, the weight difference shouldn't be any worse than having a fat person in the passenger seat. The power difference though... I guess I'll just baby it until I get the suspension and brakes swapped. Does anyone know if I need to change my turbo manifold to get it to clear the steering box? I haven't tried to test fit the motor yet, but my measurements say it's gonna be freakin' close... Quote Link to comment
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