Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 So my 521 sits from Monday til Friday night while I'm at work. Got into tonight and she fired up normal everything was great. Threw all my shit in the cab and by the time we left the truck yard she was warmed up. Normal everything. Cruised down the freeway at 60 mph for 10 miles, everything normal when exiting freeway. Pulled away from first red light and noticed she was runnin bad, like had bad gas. Got it above 2500 and she was doin normal again. At second light she was bogging down again, I stomped on the gas at 3000rpm and got a backfire thru carb! Nice and easy for the next mile or so. Was doin 45mph, when I here what sounds like something fell into the fan. slap slap slap slap!! Then no engine power. Coasted to side of road and starter no nothing. EVERYTHING electrical works, starter no click no nothin. When it lost power, oil psi was 50 engine temp was 180. NORMAL. No fluid leaks no wierd smells. Tried to push start it and all i gots was backfire thru carb. Dizzy moves, cam moves. Pulled all the plugs while waiting for my wife and they were all perfect! I thought maybe I dropped a valve seat or 8. So engine won't run and starter won't do shit, evrything works. Something in the wiring????? Timing jump?? My baby is parked on side of road till daylight when I can go see whats up. Any ideas???? Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Wonder if the carb iced up to begin with? Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Lose the lower alternator bolt? Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Alt was tight, I have 2 bolts on bottom not just 1 long one. Its 50 degrees outside, its been colder and no probs Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Alt was tight, I have 2 bolts on bottom not just 1 long one. Its 50 degrees outside, its been colder and no probs With what kind of fuel?(Chevron) Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Phillips 66 NON ethanol only. That was my thought too. Its gotta be a wire somewhere, seems like dizzy not workin Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Phillips 66 NON ethanol only. That was my thought too. Its gotta be a wire somewhere, seems like dizzy not workin running a remote igniter? or matchbox? Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Matchbox bought from parts house 3 years ago Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Check the t-cover(dizzy to) make sure all tight and good,had this happen a few years ago, was a puzzler. something so simple made for a long cold night.. and drag that baby home with the wifes vehicle now! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Coasted to side of road and starter no nothing. EVERYTHING electrical works, starter no click no nothin. So engine won't run and starter won't do shit, evrything works. I take it that you mean you turn the key to start and the starter does not turn the motor over???? Try shorting across the solenoid to the battery cable where it bolts to the starter. (be sure you're out of gear) Starter should turn over at least. If you have the key on it might start... If not do the usual check for spark... Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 With a Honduh?? I guess I could have her hold the tow strap while she drives eh?? Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 With a Honduh?? I guess I could have her hold the tow strap while she drives eh?? surely... It has to be good for something right?(honduH) Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I take it that you mean you turn the key to start and the starter does not turn the motor over???? Try shorting across the solenoid to the battery cable where it bolts to the starter. (be sure you're out of gear) Starter should turn over at least. If you have the key on it might start... Yes turn key and nothing. I tried the screwdriver trick........still nothing, no spark nuttin :confused: Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Yes turn key and nothing. I tried the screwdriver trick........still nothing, no spark nuttin :confused: It will be something so simple that your head will shake when it is found 1 Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 It will be something so simple that your head will shake when it is found True story. Been up since 5am and have driven 500 m iles today :yawn: Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 True story. Been up since 5am and have driven 500 m iles today :yawn: Thats about from here to Canby and back part way... Oh yeh see Insomniacs gotcha something Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 No spark? The positive on the battery is going straight to the starter solenoid right? And the negative of the battery goes to motor and frame/body? There shouldnt be anything in the way of a starter getting power except the solenoid, which you shorted... Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Do 5twenty ones use the fusable link at the starter? Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 No spark? The positive on the battery is going straight to the starter solenoid right? And the negative of the battery goes to motor and frame/body? There shouldnt be anything in the way of a starter getting power except the solenoid, which you shorted... What you mean I shorted solenoid?? I have started many a Datsun with a screwdriver trick and never messed up solenoid Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Do 5twenty ones use the fusable link at the starter? I dont think there is a fusible link on a 8 gauge wire... The fusible link would be after to the fusebox, or something. The starter should always be able to have power. It is pretty much the one system in any car that you can jump. Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Do 5twenty ones use the fusable link at the starter? I don't think so, the starter is hooked thru the alternator some wierd way. Alt wire runs to starter if I member correctly Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Yes turn key and nothing. I tried the screwdriver trick........still nothing, no spark nuttin :confused: Well that's impossible. The starter case is grounded. The positive wire goes to the lug. When you short the positive lug to the solenoid it has to kick in and starter turns. IF NOT... Ground battery cable loose at post or head end. Positive battery cable loose at post or starter end.. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 What you mean I shorted solenoid?? I have started many a Datsun with a screwdriver trick and never messed up solenoid Screw driver trick, ie, shorting the 2 terminals on the starter solenoid (round object attached to starter motor). Nothing wrong with that. I have done it too. But because shorting the 2 terminals didnt even make sparks. Makes me wonder what your battery cables are up to. Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 If you have the fusable link (at the starter) Not too sure if fivetwenty1's have this, but a 510 will lose all powar Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Imma head over there, she is only 2 miles away and the Hondar haz tow hook :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
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